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[–] [email protected] 153 points 3 days ago (6 children)

The part about them being too closely related to Humans sounds like BS, but there is a mushroom that is perfectly safe the first few times you eat it, and then eventually makes your immune system attack your blood cells.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxillus_involutus

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's a Paul Stamets video where he talks about how mushrooms are so closely related to humans that we both fight off similar pathogens and that is why they are so useful to us for medicine (penicillin for example.)

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In the Paul Stamets TED talk, he never says that humans specifically are genetically close to fungi. He said that between all the different kingdoms of life, animals and fungi were more biologically similar than any other two kingdoms.

That definitely explains why we can borrow useful defenses from fungi, like antibiotics, but it's definitely not a reason to believe that our immune systems would have any difficulties differentiating between certain fungi and our own bodies, at least not for reasons related to direct genetic similarities.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Our immune systems can tell the difference between human blood types. Let alone fungus vs human.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

You're right, my word choice makes it seem like I was saying fungi and humans are genetically related. Thanks for clarifying.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's an enormous difference between kingdoms, so being more similar still leaves us very far apart.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

That's true. To even get to the mushroom kingdom you have to jump into a lot of pipes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah the similarities make sense when you look at sponges and sea lilies and the like, but the difference between a mushroom and a mammal is incredibly vast

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

TIL Stamets is named after a real mycologist.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was thinking, "he is a real mycologist," before I figured out to whom you were referring.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't know if @[email protected] is a mycologist but he's certainly named after one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Named after an Astromycologist anyway. I try to distance myself as much as I can from the Union busting real world mushroom man

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Holy shit. That's mildly terrifying...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

What other great mushroom facts do you have, mystery man?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

The ol' bait and switch

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

most of it was bullshit. soon as you start down a taxonomy road you're fucked with stupidity. most things in nature are on a spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Most of my friends are also on a spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

are they fun guys?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

probably.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Well new fear unlocked, thanks.