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But those are not mutually exclusive are they? I don't think anyone claims that Bush literally did all of it, at least I wouldn't. Yes, the planning was most likely not carried out by the US government itself but by Al-Qaeda who really hated the US a lot but to say that there was no foreknowledge of what was going to happen and no coverup in the aftermath doesn't match with a lot of the stuff that has come out since. Why did the CIA not inform the FBI that potentially dangerous terrorists had entered the country? How were the suspects identified that quickly? How tf do the hijackers passports get found on the sidewalk the next day? Why are there obvious flaws in the NIST report as to how WTC 7 collapsed? Highrises don't collapse at free Fall due to fire. How were they so quick to pass the Patriot act, a 134 page legal document that was passed a month and 15 days after the attack? Considering the gates 9/11 opened for the Bush Administration it's hard to argue that they would not be tempted to at least let it happen if they were informed of it beforehand.
Asking me 200 questions of easily debunked nonsense isnt going to strengthen your arguement and is a typical response to a conspiracy theorist being called out, instead of wasting my time debunking all of this shit (which you wont care about anyway) I will instead just say that like most conspiracy theorists, you all agree on what happened but cannot agree on why it happened.
This is a mythology and is not serious analysis, you are engaging in religion not marxism.
Fair enough but can you point me to places where I can find rebutalls of this? Edit: particularly for the wtc 7 stuff, I just don't understand how a building that wasn't hit by a plan collapses.
There are a lot of explanations on building 7. It needed rennovation in the first place. When the planes hit the towers tons of burning debris came out. Some of which hit tower 7. Water to the area was knocked out when the towers fell and firefighters were not focused on getting the fire out. Building 7 was on blazing fire for something like 7 hours before it fell.
If you are interested just search for it there are a ton of reports on what happened with it. People will use a building has never fallen From Fire argument but, buildings dont usually burn for hours and hours with no one doing anythinf about it.
And the real question is why? Why blow up building 7? What would be the point? Just to fuel conspiracy theorists or what?