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[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 127 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm learning that the hard way. Started working for this company 2 hours from home,because I could WFH 3 days a week. Now they want me to come in 4 days a week. So I'm looking for a new job now. Which is a shame, because I do like the job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 131 points 2 years ago (3 children) What does your contract say? With this back to work bullshit I made sure my contract explicitly said I was remote. Doesn't mean they won't change their mind but maybe I'll get severance instead of fired for cause of they have a back to the office push. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 72 points 2 years ago (1 child) Good tip, I'll double check that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) keep me updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lukstru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Keep us updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need the update more than a windows user need a rollback. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's an exaggeration… permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago And my axe! permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) most hires don't get contracts edit: in USA. we get offer letters, take it or leave it. your job duties can change on the fly, no "contract" to abide by. do the job or leave/get fired. there is some negotiating room, but not a lot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) You must not be in america. We're lucky if we get breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights... With all this freedom, it's hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Freedom to treat your employees however you want! permalink fedilink source parent [–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS. Under the table workers are illegal and on their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm an American and I've always had a contract. Even in retail. Of course the contracts are all bullshit and just a waiver of my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago an employment offer letter is not a contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's cute you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact. Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause. Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here. Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs. That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago The term of art in employment law is “constructive dismissal” permalink fedilink source parent [–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Remote rocket ship and hiring dot cafe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* . permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 131 points 2 years ago (3 children) What does your contract say? With this back to work bullshit I made sure my contract explicitly said I was remote. Doesn't mean they won't change their mind but maybe I'll get severance instead of fired for cause of they have a back to the office push. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 72 points 2 years ago (1 child) Good tip, I'll double check that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) keep me updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lukstru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Keep us updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need the update more than a windows user need a rollback. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's an exaggeration… permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago And my axe! permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) most hires don't get contracts edit: in USA. we get offer letters, take it or leave it. your job duties can change on the fly, no "contract" to abide by. do the job or leave/get fired. there is some negotiating room, but not a lot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) You must not be in america. We're lucky if we get breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights... With all this freedom, it's hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Freedom to treat your employees however you want! permalink fedilink source parent [–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS. Under the table workers are illegal and on their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm an American and I've always had a contract. Even in retail. Of course the contracts are all bullshit and just a waiver of my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago an employment offer letter is not a contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's cute you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact. Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause. Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here. Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs. That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago The term of art in employment law is “constructive dismissal” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 72 points 2 years ago (1 child) Good tip, I'll double check that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) keep me updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lukstru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Keep us updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need the update more than a windows user need a rollback. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's an exaggeration… permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago And my axe! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) keep me updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lukstru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Keep us updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need the update more than a windows user need a rollback. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's an exaggeration… permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago And my axe! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lukstru@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children) Keep us updated! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need the update more than a windows user need a rollback. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's an exaggeration… permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago And my axe! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) We need the update more than a windows user need a rollback. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's an exaggeration… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago And my axe! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) most hires don't get contracts edit: in USA. we get offer letters, take it or leave it. your job duties can change on the fly, no "contract" to abide by. do the job or leave/get fired. there is some negotiating room, but not a lot permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) You must not be in america. We're lucky if we get breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights... With all this freedom, it's hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Freedom to treat your employees however you want! permalink fedilink source parent [–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS. Under the table workers are illegal and on their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm an American and I've always had a contract. Even in retail. Of course the contracts are all bullshit and just a waiver of my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago an employment offer letter is not a contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's cute you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact. Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause. Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here. Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs. That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) You must not be in america. We're lucky if we get breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights... With all this freedom, it's hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Freedom to treat your employees however you want! permalink fedilink source parent [–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS. Under the table workers are illegal and on their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm an American and I've always had a contract. Even in retail. Of course the contracts are all bullshit and just a waiver of my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago an employment offer letter is not a contract. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's cute you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact. Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause. Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here. Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs. That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 years ago (3 children) You must not be in america. We're lucky if we get breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights... With all this freedom, it's hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Freedom to treat your employees however you want! permalink fedilink source parent [–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS. Under the table workers are illegal and on their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm an American and I've always had a contract. Even in retail. Of course the contracts are all bullshit and just a waiver of my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago an employment offer letter is not a contract. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago (1 child) Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights... With all this freedom, it's hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Freedom to treat your employees however you want! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Freedom to treat your employees however you want! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS. Under the table workers are illegal and on their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There is nearly always a contract and the business will submit tax paperwork with your compensation to the IRS. Under the table workers are illegal and on their own permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago still not a contract, that's just taxes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm an American and I've always had a contract. Even in retail. Of course the contracts are all bullshit and just a waiver of my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago an employment offer letter is not a contract. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago an employment offer letter is not a contract. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's cute you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact. Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause. Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here. Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs. That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact. Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause. Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here. Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs. That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children) My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact. Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause. Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here. Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs. That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago You get an offer letter that spells some of that out, but it isn't a binding contract. An employment relationship in the United States is presumed to be “at-will,” i.e., terminable by either party, with or without cause or notice. Indeed, a majority of employees in the United States are employed on an “at-will” basis, without a written employment contract, and only with a written offer of employment that outlines the basic terms and conditions of their employment. Source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract". Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago you don't have too, it's all pretty informal besides taxes and I'd verification. no contract says you have to do X or can't do X, it's more rules or policies, which are often very bendable. you either take it or leave it, they can fire you as they see fit. just as youre not required to give 2 weeks notice. so if you never ask for raise or promotion, good chance you may not get either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) To where? Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife. I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 point 2 years ago Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don't allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you're married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren't even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife. And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it's not so easy to immigrate. Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don't require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it's pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you'd have to learn Norwegian. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 years ago Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it's quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don't get the reference). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago The term of art in employment law is “constructive dismissal” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Remote rocket ship and hiring dot cafe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* . permalink fedilink source parent