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submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Hey folks! Just realized something that makes Lemmy different from Reddit. Because of the federation, your votes are not technically anonymous on Lemmy. At least, I think.

Although there’s no UI to look at a user’s voting history yet, one could conceivably be built by an instance. Perhaps coincidentally, I hear there’s instances out there populated by mostly bots?

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago

From a technical standpoint, it's not different from Reddit. The only difference here is that normal people can host their own instances, whereas Reddit is only hosted by the company and they can keep it under wraps.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

Agreed from a technical standpoint.

But the implications are still interesting. One might (big might) trust Reddit as an organization not to use this data for evil, but with federation, there’s nothing stopping an instance from simply releasing all users’ voting history to be public.

Of course, my instance didn’t even ask for an email to sign up, so my entire account is anonymous that way.

I wonder if there are technical ways to federate votes anonymously?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Maybe you could hash the user and post together somehow this way it is hashed but also unique per post. If you only hashed the username then the entirety of the user's voting history would be known if the hash was reverted.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Could be hashed and salted, with a random salt.

The trouble is, then, that it’s harder to disallow users from voting multiple times if the voting user isn’t on the post’s home instance.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Couldn't someone vote multiple times anyway by just having a bunch of different accounts?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Yes, true, the current system does allow that. But the current system also doesn’t allow users to accidentally vote twice (and it remembers your vote)— this is the feature I think would be more challenging to implement if we were to hash & salt the user's ID.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

That’s always been a problem on Reddit and is on Lemmy now too though

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