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Microsoft has a big Windows 10 problem, and only one year to solve it (www.zdnet.com)
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[–] 268 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I mean, they could solve it by not making the mandatory successor an ad-laden, AI-infested, personal data harvesting, privacy-nightmare shit show. That would be a start. And also relax whatever the artificial requirement is that makes a lot of Win10 machines incompatible with 11.

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    You can bypass the requirements since yeah, they were always artificial. I believe Rufus has an option when creating Win11 install USBs to remove the TPM and other requirements.

    But then again, it's nice, because all I need to make sure Microsoft doesn't secretly update my Win10 machine in the night to Win11 is to turn off the TPM in the BIOS.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You can bypass the requirements since yeah, they were always artificial.

    I think bypassing these checks would eventually render your PC vulnerable? for example, bitlocker support being void for computers that relies on TPM 2.0

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You can bypass the requirements

    Not all of them. Windows 11 stopped booting with Update 24H2 on CPUs that don't support the Instruction POPCNT. But that's only an issue for really old CPUs like Intel Core 2 Duo and AMD Athlon 64 X2

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For a bit more context than "really old": I had an Intel Core 2 Duo in 2009.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Another angle: Those were some of the first dual-core x86 processors, released 2006 and 2005 respectively. (Intel had the Pentium D as its first in 2005).

    I don't remember which I had for sure. I'm leaning more towards Core 2 Duo. It was my first PC, I was 12 and built it with my father.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago*

    I also got my first computer around then. I saved up for ages and bought the first gen Intel MacBook with an Intel Core Duo (2 cores, no hyperthreading). I still have that laptop somewhere... It blew my mind it could run Windows, and Windows laptops couldn't compare at the time.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    Rufus has that option, I've used it myself to update to Win11 because I didn't have a motherboard with TPM at the time.
    Also wanna mention, the reason I updated was mostly because I thought Win10 was kinda ugly and I think Win11 was a huge update in that regard and also because of security reasons, since Win10 won't receive any more updates in the near future. At the end of the day, I can count on one hand how often I boot Windows in a year (I almost exclusively use Linux), so I don't really care about all the Win11 bullshit anyway.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Windows 10 is already an ad-laden, AI-infested, personal data harvesting, privacy-nightmare shit show. The problem with 11 is the ridiculous hardware requirements.

    Windows 10 is trash and has always been. Windows 7 was the last good Windows, and I would still use it if it had security updates and DX12 support (I obviously mainly use Linux, but my gaming PC is on Windows, and no, some games I play and software I use 100% do not work on Linux).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Amen. I am 100% convinced that the only reason Windows 10 was received this well was because of their tremendous marketing efforts around the release. People just accepted that it’s a great OS. It’s exactly like that Windows Vista Mojave experiment, just in reverse. In my opinion Windows 10 is even worse than Windows 11. But they didn’t do as much marketing around Windows 11.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Nope, they wont. Micro$oft only cares money rather than basic OS for everyday and professional tasks

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    They've been adding spyware and ads into W10 so it's not the money. They could easily add all W11 ads/spyware into 10 with an update. Older CPUs have several hardware vulnerabilities unrelated to the TPU required by W11.

    IMO, they should add a startup message listing the hardware vulnerabilities of the installed CPU and leave it up to the customer.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Having used both, doesn't 11 have the same level of ads as 10 did? It seems like it's really only OneDrive ads if you don't use it if anything?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Maybe? I just said in another comment that I am pretty much exclusively Linux. I only occasionally use a W10 VM at work, and it's enterprise/LTSB so I don't get a lot of that junk.

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  • [+] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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