▲ 973 ▼ Google's New Web Environment Integrity Proposal Dismissed by Brave, Mozilla, and Vivaldi (news.itsfoss.com) submitted 3 years ago by nils@feddit.de to c/technology@beehaw.org 106 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 8 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [This comment has been deleted by an automated system] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Joph@programming.dev 48 points 3 years ago (2 children) That works until you are forced to interact with a website that only works with it, either by work or school. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BarryZuckerkorn@beehaw.org 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's already the case with most corporate managed BYO device policies. The typical scenario is that an employer gives you the choice: Use the company-owned and company-managed device. No root/admin access, no privileges to install unauthorized software, sometimes policies against personal accounts or files or use. Bring your own device, but consent to the company's IT department managing your security and potentially monitoring your use. If you're going to connect this device to the company's LAN (through wifi or VPN or otherwise), you're going to let us lock it down. It's a legitimate concern that these types of things would normalize corporate-managed devices in our personal lives as consumers, and worth resisting in that space, but I don't think it would actually change the status quo in the corporate world to go from proprietary device management lockdowns to some kind of public standard for lockdowns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randomwords@midwest.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which is exactly why I will never do 2. Provide a device if you want control. I will not give you the ability to wipe my personal phone remotely just to check my work email on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Exactly. If you're going to lock down and control a device I'm going to need that device provided to me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago but that doesn't scale as well so I am unlikeley to run into that most of the time permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunflower_scribe@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago There was a lawsuit regarding this just recently, where a student successfully sued over a room scan for an exam. It’s absolutely ridiculous and shouldn’t be tolerated by any student. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 3 years ago Sure. Trust them to keep that button around... :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Joph@programming.dev 48 points 3 years ago (2 children) That works until you are forced to interact with a website that only works with it, either by work or school. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BarryZuckerkorn@beehaw.org 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's already the case with most corporate managed BYO device policies. The typical scenario is that an employer gives you the choice: Use the company-owned and company-managed device. No root/admin access, no privileges to install unauthorized software, sometimes policies against personal accounts or files or use. Bring your own device, but consent to the company's IT department managing your security and potentially monitoring your use. If you're going to connect this device to the company's LAN (through wifi or VPN or otherwise), you're going to let us lock it down. It's a legitimate concern that these types of things would normalize corporate-managed devices in our personal lives as consumers, and worth resisting in that space, but I don't think it would actually change the status quo in the corporate world to go from proprietary device management lockdowns to some kind of public standard for lockdowns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randomwords@midwest.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which is exactly why I will never do 2. Provide a device if you want control. I will not give you the ability to wipe my personal phone remotely just to check my work email on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Exactly. If you're going to lock down and control a device I'm going to need that device provided to me. permalink fedilink source parent [+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago but that doesn't scale as well so I am unlikeley to run into that most of the time permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunflower_scribe@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago There was a lawsuit regarding this just recently, where a student successfully sued over a room scan for an exam. It’s absolutely ridiculous and shouldn’t be tolerated by any student. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BarryZuckerkorn@beehaw.org 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's already the case with most corporate managed BYO device policies. The typical scenario is that an employer gives you the choice: Use the company-owned and company-managed device. No root/admin access, no privileges to install unauthorized software, sometimes policies against personal accounts or files or use. Bring your own device, but consent to the company's IT department managing your security and potentially monitoring your use. If you're going to connect this device to the company's LAN (through wifi or VPN or otherwise), you're going to let us lock it down. It's a legitimate concern that these types of things would normalize corporate-managed devices in our personal lives as consumers, and worth resisting in that space, but I don't think it would actually change the status quo in the corporate world to go from proprietary device management lockdowns to some kind of public standard for lockdowns. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] randomwords@midwest.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which is exactly why I will never do 2. Provide a device if you want control. I will not give you the ability to wipe my personal phone remotely just to check my work email on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Exactly. If you're going to lock down and control a device I'm going to need that device provided to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] randomwords@midwest.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Which is exactly why I will never do 2. Provide a device if you want control. I will not give you the ability to wipe my personal phone remotely just to check my work email on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Exactly. If you're going to lock down and control a device I'm going to need that device provided to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Exactly. If you're going to lock down and control a device I'm going to need that device provided to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago but that doesn't scale as well so I am unlikeley to run into that most of the time permalink fedilink source parent [–] sunflower_scribe@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago There was a lawsuit regarding this just recently, where a student successfully sued over a room scan for an exam. It’s absolutely ridiculous and shouldn’t be tolerated by any student. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago but that doesn't scale as well so I am unlikeley to run into that most of the time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sunflower_scribe@beehaw.org 3 points 3 years ago There was a lawsuit regarding this just recently, where a student successfully sued over a room scan for an exam. It’s absolutely ridiculous and shouldn’t be tolerated by any student. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1984@lemmy.today 10 points 3 years ago Sure. Trust them to keep that button around... :) permalink fedilink source parent