Would be kinda funny to double down and elect a black woman next. Bet they would just love that.

And that's how the orange turd built a cult...but constantly whining and complaining when Obama was elected. 8 years of slowly stroking the flames, birther crap, pointing out every single minor inconvenience and a failure of the president.

Oof, that must be a weird conversation. Am Indonesian.

Any conversation touching Islam adjacent lost any nuance with the general population more often than not . Not saying your wife is one, but let's be honest the education quality here is abysmal and at the same time we're number 1 muslim by population. Also our "Netizen" is notorious for wrongly attacking any issue they misunderstood.

One of our top singer got berated nationwide because she wore a skirt with a random arabic text in it, people thought it was a Holy script and she's Christian.

I kid you not one election season I saw an angry mob with a banner that said USA = COMMUNIST !!

Most have hard enough time just to get by day to day so I get it, they take anything to blame. With corruption top to bottom it's a sad state all around. I'm grateful it's still a relatively peaceful affair though, at least here in Java.

The hard part is, she gets to pick between genocide, and genocide with fewer rights for women.

I don't understand why she'd pick the latter, but anger does crazy things.

My wife is Indonesian Muslim, hates Kamala for what we're doing in Palestine and told me not to vote for her. I'm still voting for Kamala

Have you considered having solidarity with your wife? Did you convince her to vote Kamala, or is this still a wedge issue? Or are you not even telling her?