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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

All the major password managers store passkeys now. I have every passkey I’ve been able to make stored in Bitwarden, and they’re accessible on all my devices.

Article is behind the times, and this dude was wrong to “rip out” passkeys as an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

I need to sync my passkeys between all my devices--which really means I need keepass to store the private keys in its DB so I can sync it with all the other keepass-compatible apps I use in various places. Last I looked, this wasn't solved, but it's been a minute. I'm certainly not using a centralized password manager unless they all can freely import and export from one another. I understand this is a "being worked on" problem.

So someday, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago

Isn't the sync for keepass-compatible apps just syncing a normal file?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If a password manager stores passkeys, how is that much different than just using a password manager with passwords?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Storing passwords in a password manager is storing a shared secret where you can only control the security on your end and thus is still vulnerable to theft in a breach, negligence on the part of the party you’ve shared it with, phishing, man in the middle potentially, etc.

Storing a passkey in a password manager on the other hand is storing an unshared secret that nobody but you has access to, doesn’t leave your device during use, is highly phishing resistant, can’t be mishandled by the sites you use it to connect to etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate a bit more? If I create a passkey on https://passkeys.io on my Mac, then store the passkey in a password manager like Bitwarden, I can log into that site on my phone. I was kinda under the impression that Bitwarden stored the private key on their servers, so if their site gets hacked, then the attacker has access to my passkey.io account?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Your vault is encrypted on your device before it's sent to Bitwarden's servers, so even they don't have access to your passwords and passkeys.

More info on how it is encrypted is here:

https://bitwarden.com/help/what-encryption-is-used/

Pretty much every password manager works like this. Having access to your data would be a liability for them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's a typical DHH article, essentially. He has some interesting insights, but everything else is borderline cult-leader opinions, and some people follow it as gospel

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I feel like if DHH hadn't picked Ruby on Rails it and standalone Ruby would be much more popular today.