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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396125

Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

But you realize that a Dem or Rep is who will be president. And they won't handle the situation exactly the same. So you're allowing the person who will handle it worse a better chance to be in power. That is literally what you've done. So if the worst happens, the option you could have helped prevent, just know you had a chance to make it less bad and decided your conscious was worth more than people's lives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There is no better or worse in actively arming and participating in a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Yes, yes there is. Omfg. Honestly look at this and tell me there isn't.

If there are 3 candidates.

Candidate A wants to spend 100 mil a month arming people to commit genocide.

Candidate B wants to spend 1 mil a month arming people to commit genocide.

Candidate C wants no spending.

It's obvious candidate A is much worse, 100x worse actually. Now if candidate A and B are very close in who will win, while candidate C has 0 chance how can you best help people. Voting for candidate C does nothing. They won't get elected. But voting for candidate B prevents as much death as you are able. By voting for C you are one less vote against A. So if A wins, you've not prevented that in any way and have enabled 100x more death than B. If you want to stop death you need to look at the situation and see how you can have impact. Being overly idealistic can end up hurting you, like voting for C and changing nothing when you had a chance to save lives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Your hypothetical is false, though, the Dems and Reps have been working together to support genocide. The GOP isn't going to go harder on it than the DNC already have been, because they can't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

There have been no limits on us support to israel so far. They have gotten all they asked for. How could trump possibly give them more? Even if he did, they won't need it, it won't change anything.

Can you show some example of where we have limited israel in anyway? Why wouldnt that continue under Kamala? She won't say she'd do different, in fact she said Israel has a right to defend itself on a national talk show.