this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2024
-1 points (47.1% liked)

People's Court

448 readers
85 users here now

This is a community for Lemmygrad users and admins to discuss administrative issues in a more transparent manner

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Basically as title, I wanted to hear if posts such as below are acceptable, since as it stands, it doesn't break any of Lemmygrads rules. Frankly, the post is very weird to me, and the comments are bizarre. People talking about how they want to "dominated" by a 14 year old is imo not okay, especially not when it's on a post of a drawing of a child with clear undertones. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the post since I'm not an evangelion fan, but I thought it was noteworthy enough to bring up here.

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5810839

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 14 points 12 hours ago (9 children)

Even calling it "loli" is problematic and if anything the creepier thing, but IMO

(A) in the genchat we talked about the age of those two posters (my comment on the other hand was "sure kill me" but less explicit as it's the grad)

(B) the line drawn is iffy with age (not an Evangelion fan so didn't know she's 14) but even then at some point, considering the artstyle and that we're literally gunning for "undertones" at this point I think we need to touch grass.

(C) I agree the grad is really not the place for this sorts of things though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (8 children)

Hm, it's not problematic calling it Loli and definitely not creepy. Lolicon isn't just porn, but attraction towards children in general, is it not?

There's no gunning for undertones. If you replace the cartoon image with an actual photograph of a child it should be obvious.

The age of the commenters is irrelevant.

a) Their age is unverified

b) Readers don't know their age

c) The OC was likely created by an adult

I don't know if the character depicted is said to be 14, I was referencing u/commiespammer's comment

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

Lolicon isn’t just porn, but attraction towards children in general, is it not?

Yes and no, "loli" is the.. genre if you will. The terminally online/creepy/anime way of calling it. Calling people or kids it in general is just plain wrong honestly IMO. The "attraction towards children" is pedophilia

There’s no gunning for undertones. If you replace the cartoon image with an actual photograph of a child it should be obvious.

Once again, cartoon. Not to say that makes "everything ok" but at some point you need to touch grass

The age of the commenters is irrelevant.

As for this... seriously? They were cringe but this is equally cringe. Basically at some point... you get my gist

c) The OC was likely created by an adult

I don't see how this has anything to do with the subject matter?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Loli is shorthand for Lolita, which specifically implies sexual abuse of children and usually(?) refers to cartoons. Sexualizing a cartoon 14 year old is definitely that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sexualizing children definitely shouldn't be allowed, but I was under the impression this was supposed to make fun of evangelion fans. I don't think very many people are attracted to the characters in seriousness, that would be creepy. Misato fans though are a different story, but she's an adult so it doesn't count.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't NGE have a feature-length porn sequel that was probably animated by the same studio? Having met a few IRL I'm not going to stick my neck out for weebs that make memes of sexually suggestive anime characters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Are you referring to Human Salvation Project? I don't think it was officially related to Gainax in any way and somebody said the frames were traced from the original. Besides, it can't be considered feature-length since afaik it's like 10 minutes long. The fanbase is pretty weird, admittedly, but in my opinion the characters themselves aren't sexualized very much in the actual show. Assuming you haven't watched it the actual show is very dark in a freudian way (Anno literally had depression as he was making NGE and it was his way of coping), and the goofiness of everything related to it is as much a reaction to the contents itself than anything.

Again I do agree that this kind of post probably should be discouraged, but it's not necessarily a sign of perversion festering in lemmygrad either.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)