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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 41 points 2 years ago* (3 children) yeah it is crazy fact of life that schools get shot up so much more frequently than police stations and federal buildings. almost like politicians and police are safer than school children in the system run by police and politicians. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Also that this "fact of life" almost entirely applies only to schools in the US. The world works in mysterious ways indeed. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InputZero@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It blows my mind as a non-Amerian that their politicians are saying that the right to own a gun and carry it around is more important than children being able to go-to school without the fear of being killed. That's just the cost of 'freedum'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Their freedom to make the rest of society pay for their hobby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago Here’s an article about a massacre of children that happened in Myanmar in 2022. For those who are unaware, the government of Myanmar has been killing the unarmed civilians, largely because they face very little retaliation, because guns are illegal to possess without a license there. The licenses are never given out. Fortunately for the would-be victims, there is a growing trade in black market, homemade guns there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Yet_Kone_massacre permalink fedilink source parent [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago do you seriously think the safety of the few outweighs the rights of the many? (we need more people with good aim to practice on political figureheads) permalink fedilink source parent [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Politicians and cops have guns, or other people with guns, to shoot back. Schools do not. It's a class thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Therefore the average NRA opinion: If everybody has a gun... Edit: I'm from Europe and a supporter of strict gun laws. I just saw an analogy in NRA and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That is the case. But it does not make it any less true. Those with weapons are harder to assassinate than those of us without weapons. Again, it's a class thing and you and I are not a part of that class. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago That's such a weird "sinister" line permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Super-ness and gun ownership aren’t the same thing, and don’t work the same way. When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. The former state of affairs is more fair, and hence less likely to lead to violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. Like if all would be Supes. Therefore equality. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. A subset like Mr. Incredible against the masses of normal people. Total inequality. Regardless my stance on that topic (please see my edit on my first comment for that) I see an analogy between NRA blabla and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Almost like one of those places is not like the others in terms of having armed guards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Also that this "fact of life" almost entirely applies only to schools in the US. The world works in mysterious ways indeed. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] InputZero@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It blows my mind as a non-Amerian that their politicians are saying that the right to own a gun and carry it around is more important than children being able to go-to school without the fear of being killed. That's just the cost of 'freedum'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Their freedom to make the rest of society pay for their hobby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago Here’s an article about a massacre of children that happened in Myanmar in 2022. For those who are unaware, the government of Myanmar has been killing the unarmed civilians, largely because they face very little retaliation, because guns are illegal to possess without a license there. The licenses are never given out. Fortunately for the would-be victims, there is a growing trade in black market, homemade guns there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Yet_Kone_massacre permalink fedilink source parent [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago do you seriously think the safety of the few outweighs the rights of the many? (we need more people with good aim to practice on political figureheads) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) It blows my mind as a non-Amerian that their politicians are saying that the right to own a gun and carry it around is more important than children being able to go-to school without the fear of being killed. That's just the cost of 'freedum'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Their freedom to make the rest of society pay for their hobby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago Here’s an article about a massacre of children that happened in Myanmar in 2022. For those who are unaware, the government of Myanmar has been killing the unarmed civilians, largely because they face very little retaliation, because guns are illegal to possess without a license there. The licenses are never given out. Fortunately for the would-be victims, there is a growing trade in black market, homemade guns there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Yet_Kone_massacre permalink fedilink source parent [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago do you seriously think the safety of the few outweighs the rights of the many? (we need more people with good aim to practice on political figureheads) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Their freedom to make the rest of society pay for their hobby. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago Here’s an article about a massacre of children that happened in Myanmar in 2022. For those who are unaware, the government of Myanmar has been killing the unarmed civilians, largely because they face very little retaliation, because guns are illegal to possess without a license there. The licenses are never given out. Fortunately for the would-be victims, there is a growing trade in black market, homemade guns there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Yet_Kone_massacre permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago Here’s an article about a massacre of children that happened in Myanmar in 2022. For those who are unaware, the government of Myanmar has been killing the unarmed civilians, largely because they face very little retaliation, because guns are illegal to possess without a license there. The licenses are never given out. Fortunately for the would-be victims, there is a growing trade in black market, homemade guns there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_Yet_Kone_massacre permalink fedilink source parent
[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 years ago do you seriously think the safety of the few outweighs the rights of the many? (we need more people with good aim to practice on political figureheads) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Politicians and cops have guns, or other people with guns, to shoot back. Schools do not. It's a class thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Therefore the average NRA opinion: If everybody has a gun... Edit: I'm from Europe and a supporter of strict gun laws. I just saw an analogy in NRA and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That is the case. But it does not make it any less true. Those with weapons are harder to assassinate than those of us without weapons. Again, it's a class thing and you and I are not a part of that class. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago That's such a weird "sinister" line permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Super-ness and gun ownership aren’t the same thing, and don’t work the same way. When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. The former state of affairs is more fair, and hence less likely to lead to violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. Like if all would be Supes. Therefore equality. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. A subset like Mr. Incredible against the masses of normal people. Total inequality. Regardless my stance on that topic (please see my edit on my first comment for that) I see an analogy between NRA blabla and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Therefore the average NRA opinion: If everybody has a gun... Edit: I'm from Europe and a supporter of strict gun laws. I just saw an analogy in NRA and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That is the case. But it does not make it any less true. Those with weapons are harder to assassinate than those of us without weapons. Again, it's a class thing and you and I are not a part of that class. permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago That's such a weird "sinister" line permalink fedilink source parent [–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Super-ness and gun ownership aren’t the same thing, and don’t work the same way. When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. The former state of affairs is more fair, and hence less likely to lead to violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. Like if all would be Supes. Therefore equality. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. A subset like Mr. Incredible against the masses of normal people. Total inequality. Regardless my stance on that topic (please see my edit on my first comment for that) I see an analogy between NRA blabla and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago That is the case. But it does not make it any less true. Those with weapons are harder to assassinate than those of us without weapons. Again, it's a class thing and you and I are not a part of that class. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago That's such a weird "sinister" line permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Super-ness and gun ownership aren’t the same thing, and don’t work the same way. When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. The former state of affairs is more fair, and hence less likely to lead to violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. Like if all would be Supes. Therefore equality. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. A subset like Mr. Incredible against the masses of normal people. Total inequality. Regardless my stance on that topic (please see my edit on my first comment for that) I see an analogy between NRA blabla and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago When everyone is armed, everyone can kill. Like if all would be Supes. Therefore equality. When nobody is armed, a subset of people can kill. A subset like Mr. Incredible against the masses of normal people. Total inequality. Regardless my stance on that topic (please see my edit on my first comment for that) I see an analogy between NRA blabla and the Syndrom quote. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Almost like one of those places is not like the others in terms of having armed guards. permalink fedilink source parent
