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What explains increasing anxiety about ultra-processed plant-based foods? (www.bbc.com)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have an Italian relative who got several gastric surgeries in order to keep eating lots of cheese and meat. They have a huge superiority complex over their "cucina", much like the French.

Partly to blame is how the "Mediterranean Diet" has been promoted as something geographic, which means cultural, instead of the actual substance. So perhaps people who live in the area think of themselves as already doing it because they're there, and not realizing that the MD is defined, even has a score system, and it's mostly plants.

Perhaps the paper you saw was focused more on stroke than on CVD: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2633/2022/06/G20-CVD-Report_vFinal.pdf

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It was a study within Australia, like among Aussies upfs apparently lead to an increase in CVD. I looked at there definition of upf though and was baffled as to how it could be useful given it covered everything from inverted sugar with red 5 and soybean oil to ground TVP, seitan and spices held together with plant gum.

Generally it's my impression that nutrition science is a bit garbage. To be fair it's extremely difficult to study. Nonetheless it's prone to fads and shall we say statistical massaging.

I just really struggle to believe that your average person should spend much time freaking out over upfs vs adding some cardio and eating a bowl of oats once a day or something.