this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2024
151 points (97.5% liked)

The Dredge Tank

215 readers
492 users here now

The Dredge Tank. For posting all the low tier reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else. Got some bullshit from Reddit with 2 upvotes and want to share, post it here.

This community was created with the purpose that Rule 8 fans will just block it.

The rules are literally The Dunk Tank's rules, just without rule 8.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

founded 1 month ago
MODERATORS
 

malicious hexbears are taking advantage of people's trauma to turn them against the west folks (and judging by the recent survey, turning them trans too? kyle )

https://lemmy.world/comment/12777548 link cuz im not a lib

the comment in the screeshot is responding to @[email protected]'s wholesome introduction post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3631051

I made a TLDR here: https://hexbear.net/comment/5484512

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This conversation may even provoke another struggle session with "Hard D" determinists and those are always a fucking chore.

yeah i was a little afraid of that when I used the term probably will just say disengage immediately if anyone tries lol.

Maybe everything we do is predetermined on some subatomic scale

but like from our best approximation of nature this isn't in the case, which is why i just think the popularity of the "we don't exist" theory among physiscts very strange, it almost at some level denies both experience and physics itself to cling to this philosophy because it supports the idea that everything is predetermined like you so desperately want, it feels almost religous in nature (and again to clarify, it's not the philosophy itself that is religious, i do think it has some validity as far as I think dismissing it out of hand would probably be an even more religious thinking, it's moreso that i find the popularity of it among people who are well known to like, fucking despair that quantum mechanics means the universe is fundamentally not predetermined to be a sign that a lot of them are probably not coming at it from a super well grounded philosophical perspective)

We still experience qualia and consciously ("illusion" or otherwise) live accordingly. What the fuck are we supposed to do, with our lives, with society itself, with these clout-chasing asterisks in our lived experience?

yeah it's a big part of the reason I don't follow the philosophy, whether I actually exist and it's me choosing to follow this or if it's just how my qualia was predetermined to be arranged, I fundamentally think the philosophy is anti-human and leads to a lot of ideas for society that I (or my qualia) resolutely oppose. kinda similar reasoning for why i give no thought to whether or not we live in a simulation other than maybe like a fun 2am conversation when I'm drunk with my friends, focusing and obsessing about it doesnt do any good for society and that ultimately is my number one philosophy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

When I want to be generous and not just say "shut up, nerd" or remind said nerd that the most divorced manchild in the world shares his (almost always a he) enthusiasm for the belief system, I usually give an easy to swallow version of my take like "this 'simulation' is all we have ever known, effectively is the only existence we have any experience or knowledge of, and what would you even start to do after 'escaping' it even if 'escaping' it was somehow possible?"