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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

78% of Israelis were born there, the time to go back would have been a generation or two ago

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

americans should also return to europe tbh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Agree in theory, but it would be practically impossible. Which I guess is the point I'm trying to make with most Israelis, barring the recent settler movement. This sentiment is just a meme and not something we can practically do irl.

I've thought about this idea for a while now, but with a different context. I'm American, but my ancestors were forcibly brought here as slaves.

America should belong to the indigenous people that have been here and have had this land stolen from them by Europeans. But I didn't choose to be here, and neither did my ancestors. Where will I go? Just randomly show up in Nigeria, where I'm "from" but have zero actual connection to?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yeah great cool they can go to their parents' country

oh no I was born in Algeria I could not possibly move anywhere else hon hon hon

the french settled Algeria for 150 years, you think none of them had like four generations born there?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In the sense of living here, and yeah the US should be decolonized too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By decolonize do you mean sending white people back to Europe en masse or do you mean reeducation of white people?

The latter is necessary, the former is a meme imo.

See my other comment

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Up to what the indigenous people want and arrive at consensus with through whatever process they develop. It could be like Algeria where there's mass expulsion or it could be like South Africa where there's integration. No country with indigenous people being such a minority of the population has ever been decolonized so there is no blueprint about what it could look like.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I lean towards integration although I recognize the South African integration has largely failed, and it should be approached in a different way (how, I am unsure).

I don't really believe white leftists when they promote expulsion, tbh. I highly doubt white leftists are gonna get up and leave America if indigenous people demand it, and it comes across to me as performative self flagellation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It would at least be easy for me since I moved here.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Should we have a grandfather clause for stolen land?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Are you American?