Asklemmy

44144 readers

1557 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

Open-ended question
Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

Lemmyverse: community search
sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
[email protected]: a community for finding communities

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

104

People with framework laptops on linux (nixos?) what is your experience with them? (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

99 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Have been keeping half an eye on framework laptops as a potential next daily driver as and when I'm ready for one.

Just wondering what people's experience of using them on linux has been, particularly nixos

I'm assuming all the drivers are in the kernel given the way the company is

Have been using a 2016 thinkpad for the past year or so and have had a decent experience with it, with the way lenovo have gone with their newer thinkpads it seems like framework is now the best for maintainability/upgradability

(not planning to upgrade in the immediate future as this machine is doing fine, but frameworks are a strong contender in my mind right now and I'm curious as to people's experience)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I have a 11th gen Intel Framework 13 running PopOS.

Everything is fine except the ~~bug~~ feature with the rechargeable CHMOS battery. On my model it only charges when the laptop is charging. (They changed that behavior in all later model afaik)

Since I use my laptop only sporadically I can't just pick it up and use it right away because that battery is always empty. When it's empty the power button doesn't work even when the main battery is fully charged.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you're comfortable soldering I believe they do offer a free CMOS battery substitution module to help with what you're describing: https://guides.frame.work/Guide/RTC+Battery+Substitution+on+11th+Gen+Intel%C2%AE+Core%E2%84%A2/203

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What exactly is a CMOS battery?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a coin-cell battery. Traditionally it was used to keep the memory that stores the bios-settings and the real-time-clock powered when the PC was turned off.

By now the bios settings are stored ona different kind of memory, so it doesn't need power when turned off.

But the rtc still needs power when the laptop is off as well as other stuff (for example the circuitry that makes the power-button work)

In the framework it's also rechargeable, so you can't just swap it for a cheap one from the store once it runs out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean that seems like a better way to do it, I'm assuming these things last for years by the fact I've never had to replace one or even know about it

How is it only charging when plugged in an issue if it lasts longer than the laptop's own battery

I guess if you don't use it for long enough it depletes while powered off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The battery lasts about a mont in that laptop and gets worse quickly over time when not regularly charged.

I'm not sure if the short runtime is caused by the design-decision of using a rechargeable battery or a big power-draw from it.

For me this is also the first laptop that ever had an issue like that. Even my decade old thinkpad is still on its first CMOS battery.