▲ 108 ▼ What do hexbears think about pumped hydropower storage? (hexbear.net) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by TankieTanuki@hexbear.net to c/science@hexbear.net 108 comments fedilink hide all child comments To make solar power viable, we need a solution for overnight energy storage. Batteries are complicated. Do you know what isn't? Water go up.
[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (13 children) Isn’t the salt very corrosive? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well, it's in a tank. Atop a 250m high tower. Smack in the centre of a ring of mirrors focusing all their heat on it. Liquified to generate steam. I think the "corrosive" part is the least of the issues here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Just something I’ve heard from some people about molten salt. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) no u permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) I thought salt was cheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I guess cleaning up after a huge salt spill isn’t its also probably terrible for the ground when it leaks. From reading Wikipedia it also uses an obscene amount of fresh water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is seawater too "dirty"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago I mean it also contains salt ;) as I said salt is corrosive sea water has 35 parts per thousand of salt in it and look how corrosive that is. Here we are talking about hot molten salt… permalink fedilink source parent [–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) No, saltwater is corrosive, pure salt is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool good to know, but why do they need to keep cleaning the pipes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Some of molten salt crystallizes on pipe walls, because they are colder, and it makes the pipe narrower. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S030645492100801X Just from reading here a bit there seems to be some corrosion though. My chemistry is to shit atm to understand it though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago making it necessary to mitigate corrosion by either purifying the salt, controlling its redox potential in a reducing state, or using redox buffers The salt is not pure enough, it seems. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Well, it's in a tank. Atop a 250m high tower. Smack in the centre of a ring of mirrors focusing all their heat on it. Liquified to generate steam. I think the "corrosive" part is the least of the issues here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Just something I’ve heard from some people about molten salt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago Just something I’ve heard from some people about molten salt. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) no u permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) I thought salt was cheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I guess cleaning up after a huge salt spill isn’t its also probably terrible for the ground when it leaks. From reading Wikipedia it also uses an obscene amount of fresh water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is seawater too "dirty"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago I mean it also contains salt ;) as I said salt is corrosive sea water has 35 parts per thousand of salt in it and look how corrosive that is. Here we are talking about hot molten salt… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (4 children) Lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) I thought salt was cheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I guess cleaning up after a huge salt spill isn’t its also probably terrible for the ground when it leaks. From reading Wikipedia it also uses an obscene amount of fresh water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is seawater too "dirty"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago I mean it also contains salt ;) as I said salt is corrosive sea water has 35 parts per thousand of salt in it and look how corrosive that is. Here we are talking about hot molten salt… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children) I thought salt was cheap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I guess cleaning up after a huge salt spill isn’t its also probably terrible for the ground when it leaks. From reading Wikipedia it also uses an obscene amount of fresh water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is seawater too "dirty"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago I mean it also contains salt ;) as I said salt is corrosive sea water has 35 parts per thousand of salt in it and look how corrosive that is. Here we are talking about hot molten salt… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) I guess cleaning up after a huge salt spill isn’t its also probably terrible for the ground when it leaks. From reading Wikipedia it also uses an obscene amount of fresh water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is seawater too "dirty"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago I mean it also contains salt ;) as I said salt is corrosive sea water has 35 parts per thousand of salt in it and look how corrosive that is. Here we are talking about hot molten salt… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is seawater too "dirty"? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago I mean it also contains salt ;) as I said salt is corrosive sea water has 35 parts per thousand of salt in it and look how corrosive that is. Here we are talking about hot molten salt… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago I mean it also contains salt ;) as I said salt is corrosive sea water has 35 parts per thousand of salt in it and look how corrosive that is. Here we are talking about hot molten salt… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) No, saltwater is corrosive, pure salt is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool good to know, but why do they need to keep cleaning the pipes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Some of molten salt crystallizes on pipe walls, because they are colder, and it makes the pipe narrower. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S030645492100801X Just from reading here a bit there seems to be some corrosion though. My chemistry is to shit atm to understand it though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago making it necessary to mitigate corrosion by either purifying the salt, controlling its redox potential in a reducing state, or using redox buffers The salt is not pure enough, it seems. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Cool good to know, but why do they need to keep cleaning the pipes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Some of molten salt crystallizes on pipe walls, because they are colder, and it makes the pipe narrower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Some of molten salt crystallizes on pipe walls, because they are colder, and it makes the pipe narrower. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sausage@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S030645492100801X Just from reading here a bit there seems to be some corrosion though. My chemistry is to shit atm to understand it though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago making it necessary to mitigate corrosion by either purifying the salt, controlling its redox potential in a reducing state, or using redox buffers The salt is not pure enough, it seems. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago making it necessary to mitigate corrosion by either purifying the salt, controlling its redox potential in a reducing state, or using redox buffers The salt is not pure enough, it seems. permalink fedilink source parent