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Winn always made my skin crawl!

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you're supposed to dislike Winn, she's the villain. Her acting was perfect for the role.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Personally I absolutely love Winn ...... because I hate her character so much.

As soon as I see her in an episode I know I'm gonna enjoy it because she'll leave a lasting memory for me as to why I dislike her so much. Louise Fletcher is such a beautiful actress because she makes you forget you're watching a TV show and makes you absolutely want to step into an air lock and blast yourself out into the vacuum of space just to leave her presence.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

I will never stop loving to hate Louise Fletcher characters. She was amazing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

She reminds me of Joffrey from GoT in that sense.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

yup. it wasn't until the final season that I recognized her as Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over.... damn fine casting, and she's an impressive actress, it takes SKILL to make people hate you like that.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good villains make you want to crawl in through the screen and punch them, and boy is Kai Winn a punchable character.

Ironically, I have never wanted to punch Q, but Sisko punched him and never Winn.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I always got the impression that everything Q did was simply irritating. Winn made decisions that actively risked people's lives because she was looking for career advancement. She was actually a threat.

Also they kind of knew that Q wouldn't actually allow anyone to get hurt because he probably wasn't allowed to.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Q did things that were ultimately to the benefit of the characters. Picard is a better person from Tapestry alone. I wouldn't even call Q a villain. Antagonist, yes, but not a villain.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Q is charming. Winn has zero charisma.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, except for the whole Borg incident.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I thought the idea there was that the Borg were already on the way and him doing that gave them a chance to prepare. Then they reinforced that idea with First Contact and Enterprise, because at that point they didn't know how to write a series without the Borg.