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Rumors from the people who were on a website that was an op? That doesn't seem credible. Anyways there's always that risk. If you live in the west and post here you shouldn't post anything that breaks the law under the assumption the admins are literally CIA agents and actively hostile. Now there's no evidence of this. Dessalines has a long history of being an ML with correct lines on the anti-imperialist struggle on reddit for years before they developed Lemmy and launched this website.
Frankly though there will always be an air of distrust given the history of infiltration and subversion in the west. However, the fact that Dessalines has not tried to ever push reactionary social thought or imperialist positions, the fact they don't instigate struggle sessions and try and split people up or cause strife and in-fighting are all strong indicators that those who run this website are likely not feds or anti-communist activists (like feds but not paid and no badge or security clearance). That doesn't mean this website isn't under surveillance.
The surest way to out glowies is they serve the interests of empire. They were usually find it acceptable to push anti-capitalist positions so long as they also can push at least some pro-empire positions. Things that appeal to liberals, things like the Hong Kong color revolution or Ukraine which they can try and approach from a faux left position of claiming Russia is imperialist. They can bend on things like Gaza where it's just not possible to do otherwise as even liberals would shame them. If someone consistently takes a correct anti-imperialist line 100% of the time and takes an anti-capitalist line 100% of the time and understands the US is the main issue and espouses this then they are working against the US 100% and the only way to be of utility as an asset in that situation is to engineer splits via struggles over some minor point that they enlarge into a raging flame-war intentionally. Such a person would not seek peace or issue a line and put the discussion off limits but attempt to keep it raging.
TBH, I just think it's best to assume everything is a glowop and try to focus on useful praxis and useful theory. Even if things aren't glowops now, if you get enough visibility, security agencies will come after you.
The only possible glowop related to lemmygrad that we know of is Wenger/Wisconcom; Some guy from the US who claims to be Hoxhaist/Stalinist and calls this site and prolewiki "revisionist" because people here support the PRC. He lurks here and other places and has been actively attempting to infiltrate/wreck lemmygrad and prolewiki for over 2 years now. So far all of his attempts have hilariously failed, but for some reason he just never gives up. He might even be reading this very thread from a different account. I recommend "The Wiscon Files" for a deep dive.
Unless suddenly strange things start happening here on lemmygrad I think there is no need for this much paranoia (unless you're somehow a big threat to the imperial state).
If we're a threat to the state they'll just shut down the website, arrest the founders, and move on. It's dialectical.
How can we know you aren't wisconcom 🤔🤔🤔🧐🧐🧐