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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. It's the best blend of keyboard driven window management and recognizing that users might also use the mouse from time to time. I got my wife to use and default to tiling with Pop!_OS.

The only problem is Pop!_OS is a shitshow of dependencies being built on Ubuntu. I had an update last night that reinstalled snapd and LibreOffice and Firefox even though I intentionally uninstalled them in favor of the flatpaks. Cosmic DE, and presumably re-basing Pop!_OS on nixOS (given a dev comment) can't come soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no snap in pop os unless you installed... Firefox and libreoffice are debs. The problem may be that the pop-desktop package is depends on too many packages, but not snap

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yet somehow, through only apt updates, it brought back LibreOffice, Firefox, and snapd.

IIRC, it was something to do with ubuntu-minimal or ubuntu-release meta packages, which I never intentionaly installed.

I'm probably the only person who uninstalls the Firefox and LibreOffice packages and replaces them with the flatpaks, but this seemed like an oversight and dependency hell that comes from using the derivative of a derivative distribution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I experienced the same thing (had previously uninstalled libreoffice, but it came back after the update). I didn't get snapd back fortunately (though I do use Firefox packaged by Pop).

Part of the change is that Pop!_OS is moving away from ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard meta packages and towards their own metapackages as shown in this this recent commit.

After the update, I simply uninstalled libreoffice... hopefully it doesn't return in the next update :]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, the solution for me was to remove those ubuntu-* meta packages, reinstall what I needed by hand then update. Simple things like ftp, telnet, time, etc. had to be reinstalled.

I was kind of nervous on the reboot since a plymouth theme was removed in addition to adding a newer kernel with the amd microcode patch, but it came up fine.