they are pretty decent for atomic distros and fully automated updates. I served my time in arch and gentoo and don't want to update all the time but still want the updates. That said there are a lot of things that have also bothered me at some point that may or may not still be a problem. being out of date sometimes, stupid notifications for the application running in the background when you minimize it, jankiness when launching via clicking a file or god forbid programs launching each other. probably other stuff.