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It's German culture
It’s even worse, it’s Austrian culture.
Austrians are just Germans pretending to be civilized.
As old joke goes: The most important historical success of Austria was to convince everyone that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian.
Yep funnily enough gunther is also from upper Austria
The crappy joke I came up with is: If the devil had to name his asshole he’d call it Vienna
*mozart but yeah
Mozart was Austrian though, born in Salzburg, even though Salzburg was only incorporated to Austria after his death, but it was always more tied to Austria than Germany.
True, but I think the fact that Salzburg was technically a different polity than the archduchy of Austria is what the saying refers to. I might be misremembering it and it might actually be Beethoven though
Well Mozart himself probably did consider himself German in broader and probably rather cultural sense, especially that he lived before the rise of modern idea of nation when that question was redefined to what we mean today. Not to mention Austria was always somewhat peculiar about it too.
If I had to generalise it I’d say we’re a weird mix of eastern europeans pretending to be Germans
So theyre just germans?
Victoria 3 rules: if you can form Germany, you're Germany.