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Hello comrades! Friendly reminder that American leftists continue to be threatened by gun loving conservatives. You should know how to defend yourself and you should probably own a gun. Find an active SRA, John Brown Gun Club, or (if things are dire) pink pistols or other "apolitical" gun club.

I've been in the SRA for 4 years, it's not great, but I met comrades local to me. I've learned a lot from them and fash who post good firearms advice and I love to share that when I can.

Open for questions and I'll post more getting started stuff if this doesn't get banned.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure. You do you.

You didn't say "I don't want a gun," though; you said that you didn't think you could pull the trigger on a gun to kill someone, and that's different.

Are you anti-gun, uninterested in guns in general, a pacifist? I mean, could you kill someone with a knife, but just not a gun? Or are you opposed to all actions involving physical defense?

It sounded as if you just believe that you don't have it in you to take a life, which is fine; I think that's the normal, healthy human condition. But that's not necessarily an indication of pacifism.

This isn't an abstract, philosophical, unlikely prospect we face. Project 2025 outlines the extent to which American Fascists are willing to go, and January 6th demonstrated it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I really do not feel the need to continue to justify myself to you.

Go ahead and imply that my stance enables fascism or whatever. I'm sure you'll definitely berate me into picking up a gun and getting in the trenches.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, dude. Did you read what I wrote? I said

I don't care if you want or have a gun.
I clarified how I interpreted your comment, which bore directly on how I framed my response (not wanting to kill ≠ pacifism & also in no way implies not wanting to own a gun).
I asked questions to further conversation, which is how people communicate; in this case trying to find where you draw a line on violence.
I said I thought it was healthy to not think you could kill someone.
I pointed out that - for me, at least - this isn't a hypothetical situation; that I believe it's a serious topic deserving debate, which people should be thinking and taking about. In particular, I'm not trolling - these are real issues.

What I did not say is that you needed to justify yourself, and there was no ad-hominem attack in my response.

I think we've interacted before, and while I could be mistaken, I thought we'd had some good conversation with common ground. But it could be that we've butt heads before and that's why I recognize your username.

In any case, OP's post reflects a growing feeling, especially among the targets of P.2025 - minorities, the poor - that they need to prepare to defend themselves for violence. You obviously don't, for whatever reason, but many people do. And I think we should be talking about this.