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Socialists who have lived in different countries: what differences did you notice in their labour movement? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Every place has its different environment, whether it be the level of organisation, reputation of socialism, dominant values of society, history and experiences, conflicts and crises. Because of these dynamics, I'd expect to see stark differences in what the movement looks like around the world. An obvious example familiar to most here is seeing the widespread and militant union mobilisations in France's retirement age protests.

Which countries do you have experience in, and how are their labour movements different?

The title is intentionally vague by saying 'labour movement', so you're welcome to talk about workplace attitudes, unions, socialist organisations, legislation and more.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What do you think was the source of the general disdain in the UK?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

My parent's generation in the UK experienced things like the three day week ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Day_Week ), major disruptions to normal life due to strikes. In the end, the Conservatives in some ways 'won' and so this has gone down in the cultural memory as unions having 'too much power'. Add to this that, largely due to unrelated geopolitical and macroeconomic reasons, the 70s (when unions had more power) were hard times, and in the 80s (when Thatcher and Reagan were doing their thing) things felt like they were getting better for lots of people (even though with hindsight inequality was starting to grow and the seeds of many of today's problems were being planted).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe someone else would be a better judge on what the source is. I know the UK had a period of more entrenched socialist policies prior to Thatcher that may affect the general population's perceptions of the movement. The poisonous Murdoch newspaper/media ecosystem can't help either.