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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Also imagine paranoid theories like "dark forest" are being peddled with no reason at all, but much reception.

And by a Chinese writer of all people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well the concept was in a single science fiction series, it's just been cultified by people on the internet. Not really much he could do there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t blame Cixin Liu. People forget that sci-fi is often about the present day and that his use of the dark forest in his novels is not necessarily and endorsement of the theory as a solution to the Fermi paradox.

I also feel like, in the series, the dark forest is a reasonable stand in for capitalism, especially considering the obvious references to colonialism and imperialism. The final book even suggests the universe will cease to be livable unless sacrifices are made in the interests of cooperation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It can be understood like that, but if that was his intention, it fell flat on face, judging from the reception.

I blame him for popularisation of that theory which was so fringe it didn't even had a name previously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure what you mean. Elaborate, please?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dark Forest hypothesis is the most paranoid and pessimistic explanation of Fermi's Paradox. It got huge traction worldwide after it was the topic of otherwise excellent book by Chinese sci-fi author Liu Cixin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, I knew this stuff. But what did you mean by

by a Chinese writer of all people.

Should Chinese authors "peddle" more optimistic baseless theories instead or what?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, i would expect them write more in line of socialist sci-fi tradition instead of typical american doomer settings. Sci-fi genre is utterly oversaturated with darkness already.