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Lol how did removing people who are in the country illegally an even remotely controversial view.
No wonder the right are gaining votes all over the world. The left are their own worse enemy.
Because arbitrary lines in a desert ought not invalidate peoples freedom?
Because there is no valid metric other than skin color to initially round all these people up and put them in camps where we can concentrate on if they are actually supposed to be here or not?
Because some of those people put in camps where we can concentrate on whether they are supposed to be here or not will be American citizens deprived of their rights based on their skin color?
Because trains will run 24-7 for 5+ years to deport 15+ million people?
Because a subset of the population is convinced central America = Mexico and we can just dump them in Mexico?
Because just that transportation alone will cost over half our GDP even before we get in to detention and feeding, investigation and appeals processes?
Because if we don't do the above then we are denying people the right of due process, and what does that say about us as a society?
Because most people are here illegally because of expired visas, so they can just reapply anyway?
Because in 2022 undocumented immigrants paid 96.7 billion dollars in taxes, and the right wants to just do away with that and God forbid someone making millions has to pay a little extra?
Because it's a buzz word used by the right so people can be openly racist when there is zero plan in place because then they lose their wedge issue?
Because this zero-plan maneuver will decimate our economy, just so a certain subset of the population can feel that their skin color wins because Jesus said so or something?
Excellent answers. I’d also take “empathy and human decency.”
What a load of horseshit.
I pretty sure the people that fought and died for those lines, the people that spent a lifetime building up something they love on one side of that line wouldn't call them arbitrary. In fantasy land they might be arbitrary but in the real world they mean a lot. People who break the law shouldn't be rewarded.
People aren't suppose to be there. They should go somehow. If there are 15 million people and they largely seem to be one skin colour as you make out. That's seems like a good starting point to me. How else would you do it?
That's genuinely mindblowing. 1 that the trains are that bad. (Some lines hit 1.5 million per day). 2 That the situation is that dire it will take so long to fix it under ideal situations.
You don't seem to be making any point but rambling from then on. Paying taxes says nothing without taking everything else into account. It's literally meaningless. If they just need to reapply then it seems like they need some convincing. 15 million! Of course something needs to be done to convince them to stop breaking the law either ship them out if they aren't meant to be there or convince them to do their civic duty