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Custom ROMs have had just about enough of being Android's second-class citizens (www.androidauthority.com)
submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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TL;DR

  • Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
  • The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
  • Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.
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[–] [email protected] 227 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (31 children)

yeah. like my manufacturers' 3-year-old, full-o-spyware ROM is more secure than latest clean installed lineage.

they just want control, not security. and with banking apps becoming a necessity, i'm starting to be forced to return to stock.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

graphene sandboxes Google services so they don't run as root on your device. I haven't encountered an app I can't get running on graphene yet and having Google play installed as non root is a far sight better than stock.

my biggest problem with lineage was compatibility with banking apps so I reluctantly switched but graphene is a solid choice in operating system for privacy and security.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

does it hide root/custom roms?

if so im interested.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

not really. after enabling oem unlocking in developer options you just boot it while holding one of the volume buttons and you're able to unlock the bootloader.

root is not typically available and you don't need it for most uses besides development, but even then, I would recommend not using a phone you daily for that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

sure, but unrooted custom roms also trip the protections.

root can sometimes be used to mask that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

you're already over my head but you can talk to the devs. they have a matrix chat they link on their site

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Is has been discussed, I read once here: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/475-wallet-google-pay/2 about it, but sadly the tweet is gone and I dont remeber the exact reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Graphene is great, but I'm currently on a Xiaomi phone so I can't run most ROMs, I'll likely run derpfest when I get the bootloader unlocked

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that's one I haven't heard of. how is it functionally?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I haven't tried it yet, but it seems to have a lot of pixel features ported, I realized crDroid supports my phone so I might try that

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