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'If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that': Harris fires back at Gaza protesters at rally (www.usatoday.com)

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Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, fired back at pro-Palestinian protesters of Israel's war in Gaza as they interrupted her speech during a Wednesday night campaign rally in Detroit.

"You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I'm speaking," Harris said with a long stare, drawing loud cheers from supporters in the crowd before chants of, "Not going back!"

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Holy fuck it’s like everyone commenting on this post simply refuses to understand the deeply dismaying and unfortunate - but very real - amount of influence AIPAC has on the entirety of the US political system.

I agree that it’s stupid and bad. But not admitting that it’s a real influence that has the potential to, you know, help the fucking fascists win is absolutely, categorically idiotic.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"We have to let Israel do genocide or they'll install fascism in the US."

Uh.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This is moronic. One crisis at a time.

Trump will be worse, this is a fact. He will create dozens of crisis overnight, and he will also worsen the genocide by magnitudes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

AIPAC isn't an unstoppable juggernaut that can just install whatever president they want.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because the genocide the fascists allow will be so much kinder and gentler

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your thesis is that Israel is so powerful that they can do genocide with impunity and no one on Earth can stop them; if the US ever went soft on support for Israel it could install whoever they want as the president, ushering in an age of fascism in the US.

You actually believe all that?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

"This is what Democrats actually believe."

I'm calling bullshit. Bernie Sanders and Rashida Tlaib have both spoken out against the genocide, and yet both of them are still in office. Hell, Tlaib held up a sign that read "war criminal" during Netanyahu's speech before congress!

Kamala and Walz are superstars right now. Yet, we're supposed to believe that if she opposed Israel, the almighty AIPAC would dump a bunch of money into Trump's campaign and get him elected? Money is a huge factor in politics, but simply injecting more money doesn't cause somebody to win or lose.

AIPAC aren't gods, and the idea that they are is actually oddly antisemitic. It's like saying "We can't piss off Israel, because they control who wins or loses the election." This is batshit conspiracy theory territory.

Kamala has already shown that she isn't afraid of Trump. She needs to show that she isn't afraid of Israel, either. That is, if she's serous about ending the genocide.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I feel like AIPAC is just a way for US politicians to get a higher salary. The feds give Israel money and an Israeli government associated agency gives politicians money directly.