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I need some clarification on ul li vs divs (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello,

I'm a Sr Dev who mostly has done back-end work but I'm "dangerous enough" in front end frameworks to get things done in my job.

I have another Sr Dev on my team who is ADAMANT on using ul/ol's everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE.

Navigation menu items will get done as a list.

Say I have a list of key value pairs or tags describing an item on a page, that's a list. If there are two sections on a page that's also a list. Even forms are built as lists of inputs and buttons. To the point where I'm positive if I told them to recreate the google front page I'm 100% they'd make a ul and a li for the image, another for the box and a separate li for the buttons.

My frustration is that every piece of documentation regarding ordered lists and unordered lists are for literally listings out items as numbered or bulleted lists, not logically grouping things on a page. Also our code is littered with extra css to strip out the bullet points and numbers on a basic li item.

I've worked on several projects and this is the first time I've ever seen lists so overused. Is this normal on some projects? It feels wrong but I don't know the exact terminology to use to explain why, given my inexperience in front end development.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

HTML is open, you could easily scrape websites and generate some stats about how often they're used.

But no, ul and ol are for exactly what you'd expect them to be used for.

Incidentally the Mozilla docs for ol say:

Unless the type of the list number matters (like legal or technical documents where items are referenced by their number/letter), use the CSS list-style-type property instead.