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Does 70/30 apply to Deng? Not tryin' to gotcha or criticize current China (lemmygrad.ml)

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The same with Mao, in terms of balancing good and bad policies, of their OWN time.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (3 children)

he rated himself 50/50 lol

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He also tried to quit three times, he was denied each time.

He complained about how they should introduce a retirement age for politicians when he tried unsucsesfully to resign when he was age 80.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Deng? Same thing happened to Stalin, no?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unsure with Stalin, likely true.

I got this from a interview he did with an american news channel (wild how in the 90s you just had chinese leaders going over to american chat shows and talking for a few hours lol)

Wallace: Last question. You are number one in China. How long do you intend to continue to be the chief leader and the chief adviser?

Deng: I am all for the abolition of life tenure and the institution of a retirement system. As you know, I told the Italian correspondent Oriana Fallaci that my plan was to work until 1985. It’s already a year beyond that date. I am now considering when to retire. Personally, I should like to retire soon. However, this is a rather difficult question. It is very hard to persuade the Party rank and file and the Chinese people to accept that. I believe if I retire before I die, it will help ensure the continuation of the present policies. It will also be in keeping with my own wishes. However, I need to work harder to talk people around. In the end, as I am a member of the Communist Party, I must obey the decision of the Party. I am a citizen of the People’s Republic of China, so I must obey the will of the people. I am still hoping that I can succeed in persuading the people to come round to my view.

Wallace: You told Fallaci “until 1985”; what will you tell me?

Deng: To be quite frank, I am trying to persuade people to let me retire at the Party’s Thirteenth National Congress next year. But so far, all I have heard is dissenting voices on all sides.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/deng-xiaoping/1986/192.htm

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow! If I had a nickel for every time a Communist "dictator" was repeatedly denied permission to retire from his position by his Party, I'd have two nickels—which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Deng: "Let me retire, I wanna play with my grandkids!!!!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

In communist china you try to quit your job and the people vote on it and say 'no'

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Do you happen to have a source? I was just talking with a friend earlier about how the CPC explicitly acknowledges past mistakes like some of Mao's later career.

I feel the ability to self-reflect and publically self-criticize is something that is missing in a lot of country's leaders. It's nice to read when it happens.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Deng: Hmm… listen, I have made mistakes — yes, sometimes serious ones. But I never made them with bad intentions; I always made them with good intentions. My conscience is clear about my own life. Hmm… listen, I think I could give myself fifty percent. Yes, fifty percent would be all right.

https://redsails.org/deng-and-fallaci/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Not bad.