emergencyfood comments on Americans will need a visa to visit Europe starting in 2024. Here's what you should know.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 years ago (2 children)

The Schengen area (which has common visa rules) is not the same as the EU. Those four countries are part of the Schengen agreement even though they are not in the EU. Conversely, Ireland is not included because although it is an EU member, it is not in the Schengen zone.

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[–] PatrickYaa@lemmy.one 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Sorry, I re-read the article and the original announcement by the EU travel authority. Neither makes mention of Schengen, which is what got me confused. The ETIAS site does explicitly list the Schengen countries along with the EU one. And not Ireland. They probably vetoed something and got excluded or something :D

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[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago*

EU countries do not have a single travel authority. 23 of the 27 EU members, four other large countries (Norway, Iceland, CH and Liechtenstein), and three other small countries (Monaco, San Marino and Vatican City) form the Schengen zone, whose travel rules are set by the EU. Three EU members - Bulgaria, Cyprus and Romania - have not joined the Schengen system yet. One EU member - Ireland - has its own system and does not even plan to join. Instead, it has open borders with Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK and therefore outside the EU. Hope this helps.

Edit: Ireland cannot join Schengen unless the UK also joins (because they are legally required to have open borders with NI), and the UK has no interest in joining.

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