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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It's funny, my yard is essentially the community play ground. When I don't maintain it, the clover gets destroyed and it turns into a mud pit the kids can't play on really. Natural grasses didn't stand a chance even after being given the time to establish.

I consulted with a landscape architect who I was partnered with on an elementary school I was building looking for what I could do naturally to keep the yard in tact while the kids played..... this was a nationwide firm, on a LEED Gold project. Their answer? Grass. Rye grass, KBG and red fescue was the recommendation.

I nuked the lawn, soil and seeded it and two years later it's held up wonderfully and is enjoyed by a handful of families.

I planted Milk weed for the pollinators. They don't want most of the crap people plant trying to be Eco friendly anyways or so the landscape architect told me.

This anti lawn tirade is kinda anti-kid to a degree. When my kids are older and not using it every day, I'll tear it all out and hardscape it. I don't wanna maintain things for no purpose.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This anti lawn tirade is kinda anti-kid to a degree.

I see where you're coming from, but I'd argue that more public parks with playgrounds and fields to play on is better than lawns. In some places that's not prioritised, possibly where you are, and so it sounds great what you have going on!

But if there are enough public parks for kids to play at, then lawns just end up being wasted space that could instead be a garden or have native plants that help the native wildlife, or something like that.

I don't know anyone that actually uses their lawn for anything... Some people might host BBQs or stuff like that, in which case I don't mind. In my view, if it gets used, great! But most of the time they don't and they just suck up water resources and petrol on mowing with no real benefit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

The best lawn is one that serves a purpose for a reasonably sized group of people. Feeling or being compelled to maintain something you don't want, that's of no value to you, or nature, is the worst part of lawn culture to me. Nobody should be expected to have a lawn they don't want, if you have a better use for the space, do that instead if you want.

Sounds like their lawn is at least good for their community. Maybe it's suboptimal urban planning, but that's far less bad than wanton waste of resources in my book.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've got a play structure on mine. There's usually a half dozen kids on it daily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Hope you have great homeowner's insurance in case any of them gets injured.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

They don’t want most of the crap people plant trying to be Eco friendly anyways or so the landscape architect told me.

Keystone Plants by Ecoregion

The research of entomologist, Dr. Doug Tallamy, and his team at the University of Delaware have identified 14% of native plants (the keystones) support 90% of butterfly and moth lepidoptera species. The research of horticulturist Jarrod Fowler has shown that 15% to 60% of North American native bee species are pollen specialists who only eat pollen from 40% of native plants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Imo what you're saying is reasonable not just for kids but for everyone - we need spaces for outdoor recreation and sport. And that includes some amount of native grasses. That being said, if you go through a suburb, most lawns are not used for that purpose and certainly, almost every boulevard is wasted. Many neighbourhoods either lack public parks, or the parks are not safely accessible by bicycle.

That's where the whole nolawn discussion comes in: to stop making lawns the default. They have a place, but we're overdoing it to the point of pushing out native species and pollinators such as bees and butterflies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It's not anti-kid. Tons of people live in cities with no yards whatsoever and they still manage to raise children and to let those children play. Shared parks offer better play opportunities than private lawns do in an urban environment.