▲ 833 ▼ Google Maps tests new pop-up ads that give you an unnecessary detour (www.androidauthority.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by flop_leash_973@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 257 comments fedilink hide all child comments Jesus, that is a gross way to inject advertising into turn-by-turn navigation. Edit/update from 9to5google so this post does not spread what is apparently inaccurate information: https://9to5google.com/2024/07/08/google-maps-pop-up-quick-detour-ad/
[–] Sbuiko@lemmy.world 166 points 2 years ago (4 children) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organic_Maps permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) Does it have traffic data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unfortunately not, and the time estimates are quite inaccurate. Sigh, it's the price for not having to deal with Googles shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] akilou@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago Sounds like you just have different shit to deal with permalink fedilink source parent [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) No. The only OpenStreetMap based navigation app with live traffic data is Magic Earth. It's not foss, but gratis. They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. That is the reason live traffic is only available in just some countries: https://www.magicearth.com/feature-availablity/#hd_traffic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago* They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. https://www.magicearth.com/faq-en/ Do you share data with third parties? We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes. They have a good privacy policy though. I haven't really had many issues with their app. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for this, I'm going to try this out on my way home. My main use for Gmaps is to determine the quickest way to and from work during peak hour, so keen to see how Magic Earth's traffic data compares. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] KISSmyOS@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batshit@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This assumes everyone has the same destination, which is rarely the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation). permalink fedilink source parent [–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But at that point what are you even gaining? If you're looking for privacy you're just trading Google tracking you for "third party service provider" tracking you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago No. It means they get the data from somewhere else, maybe from some carsharing app, or from some government db from car counting thingies mounted on traffic lights, etc. There are other sources to get traffic data ftom, but usually following users is more convenient and reliable They wont tell us where they get it from, they only say it's not generated via this app. They are followimg someone, but not me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, if you want that, just use Magic Earth. It’s a great app, btw. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 years ago (5 children) Id recommend osmand over organic maps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 29 points 2 years ago Personally I been using organic maps because Osmand isn't giving me better directions and it needs more permissions and it doesn't have working voice directions permalink fedilink source parent [–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago Osmand would be the best one if it wasn't so slow. Compared to organic maps the rendering lag is not only noticeable but very annoying permalink fedilink source parent [–] explore_broaden@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago I don’t like how OsmAnd limits the number of maps you can download for free, Organic Maps’s donation model is much better in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Organic Maps is fine. It's what I use, although I am not located in a great area for OSM. Are there any specific benefits to OSMand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Contributing by updating roads and POIs is fairly straightforward and can be pretty fun ^^ https://openstreetmaps.org/edit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Of course! I do that all the time, and I agree it's fun. OrganicMaps uses the same data, I just find it a little simpler to use and clearer to read. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xploit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Did Osmand change that bullshit where if you changed your device you can fuck right off with your previously bought maps and pay for them again because they didn't tie them to store account permalink fedilink source parent [–] xep@fedia.io 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Is there any way I can help contribute public transport information to OSM? It's the one thing that Google maps does that I can't replace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] neblem@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* If public transport mapping is your goal, it might make sense to try out the MapComplete Train Station https://mapcomplete.org/stations and Bus Routes https://mapcomplete.org/transit themes which give an easier, more focused, mapping interface. Quest apps like Street Complete can also make getting into OSM a bit easier, though OSM Beginners Guise is great too. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide permalink fedilink source parent [–] neblem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yes! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport though it is a bit complex to fully add routes, adding stops is super easy! permalink fedilink source parent [–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago OSM doesn’t really track live and exact public transport schedules (you can define static routes and say which interval the tram/whatever comes but that’s about it). Organic Maps is working on implementing live data: https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/5331 permalink fedilink source parent [–] bdonvr 3 points 2 years ago I wish I could get satellite view but I totally get why that's not a thing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) Does it have traffic data? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unfortunately not, and the time estimates are quite inaccurate. Sigh, it's the price for not having to deal with Googles shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] akilou@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago Sounds like you just have different shit to deal with permalink fedilink source parent [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) No. The only OpenStreetMap based navigation app with live traffic data is Magic Earth. It's not foss, but gratis. They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. That is the reason live traffic is only available in just some countries: https://www.magicearth.com/feature-availablity/#hd_traffic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago* They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. https://www.magicearth.com/faq-en/ Do you share data with third parties? We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes. They have a good privacy policy though. I haven't really had many issues with their app. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for this, I'm going to try this out on my way home. My main use for Gmaps is to determine the quickest way to and from work during peak hour, so keen to see how Magic Earth's traffic data compares. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] KISSmyOS@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batshit@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This assumes everyone has the same destination, which is rarely the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation). permalink fedilink source parent [–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But at that point what are you even gaining? If you're looking for privacy you're just trading Google tracking you for "third party service provider" tracking you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago No. It means they get the data from somewhere else, maybe from some carsharing app, or from some government db from car counting thingies mounted on traffic lights, etc. There are other sources to get traffic data ftom, but usually following users is more convenient and reliable They wont tell us where they get it from, they only say it's not generated via this app. They are followimg someone, but not me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, if you want that, just use Magic Earth. It’s a great app, btw. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unfortunately not, and the time estimates are quite inaccurate. Sigh, it's the price for not having to deal with Googles shit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] akilou@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago Sounds like you just have different shit to deal with permalink fedilink source parent
[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 years ago Sounds like you just have different shit to deal with permalink fedilink source parent
[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) No. The only OpenStreetMap based navigation app with live traffic data is Magic Earth. It's not foss, but gratis. They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. That is the reason live traffic is only available in just some countries: https://www.magicearth.com/feature-availablity/#hd_traffic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago* They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. https://www.magicearth.com/faq-en/ Do you share data with third parties? We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes. They have a good privacy policy though. I haven't really had many issues with their app. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for this, I'm going to try this out on my way home. My main use for Gmaps is to determine the quickest way to and from work during peak hour, so keen to see how Magic Earth's traffic data compares. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] KISSmyOS@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batshit@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This assumes everyone has the same destination, which is rarely the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation). permalink fedilink source parent [–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But at that point what are you even gaining? If you're looking for privacy you're just trading Google tracking you for "third party service provider" tracking you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago No. It means they get the data from somewhere else, maybe from some carsharing app, or from some government db from car counting thingies mounted on traffic lights, etc. There are other sources to get traffic data ftom, but usually following users is more convenient and reliable They wont tell us where they get it from, they only say it's not generated via this app. They are followimg someone, but not me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago* They get the traffic data from some third party, not by following their users like gmaps. https://www.magicearth.com/faq-en/ Do you share data with third parties? We send position data to our traffic provider to generate real-time traffic information. The data is anonymized on the phone, using a changing key (so it's not linked to you), and it is deleted after 5 minutes. They have a good privacy policy though. I haven't really had many issues with their app. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for this, I'm going to try this out on my way home. My main use for Gmaps is to determine the quickest way to and from work during peak hour, so keen to see how Magic Earth's traffic data compares. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] KISSmyOS@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batshit@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This assumes everyone has the same destination, which is rarely the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation). permalink fedilink source parent
[+] KISSmyOS@feddit.org 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] batshit@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This assumes everyone has the same destination, which is rarely the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] batshit@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) This assumes everyone has the same destination, which is rarely the case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago not really, not everybody has the same destination, but a lot of people need to go in the same direction at a given moment (thats why you are stuck in traffic in this situation). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) But at that point what are you even gaining? If you're looking for privacy you're just trading Google tracking you for "third party service provider" tracking you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago No. It means they get the data from somewhere else, maybe from some carsharing app, or from some government db from car counting thingies mounted on traffic lights, etc. There are other sources to get traffic data ftom, but usually following users is more convenient and reliable They wont tell us where they get it from, they only say it's not generated via this app. They are followimg someone, but not me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago No. It means they get the data from somewhere else, maybe from some carsharing app, or from some government db from car counting thingies mounted on traffic lights, etc. There are other sources to get traffic data ftom, but usually following users is more convenient and reliable They wont tell us where they get it from, they only say it's not generated via this app. They are followimg someone, but not me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago No, if you want that, just use Magic Earth. It’s a great app, btw. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 years ago (5 children) Id recommend osmand over organic maps permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 29 points 2 years ago Personally I been using organic maps because Osmand isn't giving me better directions and it needs more permissions and it doesn't have working voice directions permalink fedilink source parent [–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago Osmand would be the best one if it wasn't so slow. Compared to organic maps the rendering lag is not only noticeable but very annoying permalink fedilink source parent [–] explore_broaden@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago I don’t like how OsmAnd limits the number of maps you can download for free, Organic Maps’s donation model is much better in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Organic Maps is fine. It's what I use, although I am not located in a great area for OSM. Are there any specific benefits to OSMand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Contributing by updating roads and POIs is fairly straightforward and can be pretty fun ^^ https://openstreetmaps.org/edit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Of course! I do that all the time, and I agree it's fun. OrganicMaps uses the same data, I just find it a little simpler to use and clearer to read. permalink fedilink source parent [–] xploit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Did Osmand change that bullshit where if you changed your device you can fuck right off with your previously bought maps and pay for them again because they didn't tie them to store account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 29 points 2 years ago Personally I been using organic maps because Osmand isn't giving me better directions and it needs more permissions and it doesn't have working voice directions permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago Osmand would be the best one if it wasn't so slow. Compared to organic maps the rendering lag is not only noticeable but very annoying permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explore_broaden@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago I don’t like how OsmAnd limits the number of maps you can download for free, Organic Maps’s donation model is much better in my opinion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Organic Maps is fine. It's what I use, although I am not located in a great area for OSM. Are there any specific benefits to OSMand? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Contributing by updating roads and POIs is fairly straightforward and can be pretty fun ^^ https://openstreetmaps.org/edit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Of course! I do that all the time, and I agree it's fun. OrganicMaps uses the same data, I just find it a little simpler to use and clearer to read. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Contributing by updating roads and POIs is fairly straightforward and can be pretty fun ^^ https://openstreetmaps.org/edit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Of course! I do that all the time, and I agree it's fun. OrganicMaps uses the same data, I just find it a little simpler to use and clearer to read. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Of course! I do that all the time, and I agree it's fun. OrganicMaps uses the same data, I just find it a little simpler to use and clearer to read. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xploit@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* Did Osmand change that bullshit where if you changed your device you can fuck right off with your previously bought maps and pay for them again because they didn't tie them to store account permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xep@fedia.io 7 points 2 years ago (3 children) Is there any way I can help contribute public transport information to OSM? It's the one thing that Google maps does that I can't replace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] neblem@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* If public transport mapping is your goal, it might make sense to try out the MapComplete Train Station https://mapcomplete.org/stations and Bus Routes https://mapcomplete.org/transit themes which give an easier, more focused, mapping interface. Quest apps like Street Complete can also make getting into OSM a bit easier, though OSM Beginners Guise is great too. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide permalink fedilink source parent [–] neblem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yes! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport though it is a bit complex to fully add routes, adding stops is super easy! permalink fedilink source parent [–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago OSM doesn’t really track live and exact public transport schedules (you can define static routes and say which interval the tram/whatever comes but that’s about it). Organic Maps is working on implementing live data: https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/5331 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neblem@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* If public transport mapping is your goal, it might make sense to try out the MapComplete Train Station https://mapcomplete.org/stations and Bus Routes https://mapcomplete.org/transit themes which give an easier, more focused, mapping interface. Quest apps like Street Complete can also make getting into OSM a bit easier, though OSM Beginners Guise is great too. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neblem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yes! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport though it is a bit complex to fully add routes, adding stops is super easy! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago OSM doesn’t really track live and exact public transport schedules (you can define static routes and say which interval the tram/whatever comes but that’s about it). Organic Maps is working on implementing live data: https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/5331 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr 3 points 2 years ago I wish I could get satellite view but I totally get why that's not a thing permalink fedilink source parent