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@skillissuer I have no idea how they could have been *needed* against Ukrainian tanks. My impression was that they didn’t have any tanks with active defense until they got EU/NATO models, but I could be wrong.
Ukrainians have this thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaslin_Active_Protection_System but i've never seen something like Drozd/Arena used, nor western APSs. plenty of ERA everywhere tho
what makes me think that APSs are not a real factor either way is that everyone slaps ERA and anti-drone mesh on everything, which would interfere with radar. APSs historically had a huge blind spot on top, which is a bad thing in a war with drones. also, major user of APSs, IDF, slapped anti-drone grids on top of their tanks at the beginning of current Gaza war, so kinda probably that means that they are not really sure that it works good enough