▲ 821 ▼ Lemmy is the best social media (lemmy.zip) submitted 2 years ago by Maven@lemmy.zip to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 424 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Hubi@feddit.org 156 points 2 years ago (65 children) Well except for the entire population of Hexbear and the 'Grad... permalink fedilink source hideshow 69 child comments replies: [–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm fairly sure they aren't bots, but definitely pro Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago bots, sockpuppets, infowarfare it's all different vlads in the same bag permalink fedilink source parent [–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) Last I checked hexbear had something like 70% more total comments than lemmy.world despite only having a tiny fraction of the users. Sounds like bots to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Hexbear has had an established and more active community for a longer time than Lemmy.world. You can visit Hexbear yourself and check, it's not illegal or anything. Over time Lemmy.world may overtake Hexbear, but not for a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have imagined that ever since the Reddit emigration hype ended and things settled down a bit here that the vast majority of world and shit users are mostly lurkers and not terribly vocal, as is the case on a lot of other platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well Hexbear also had a policy of not showing down votes to encourage users to respond if they disagree instead of just down voting and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* That's very ironic given that they ban anyone further left than "Capitalist Russia is the best country in the world! Let's support their invasion of Ukraine for no reason! Ughur genocide fake by the way! Is not so bad that Stalin banned being gay." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It's not that they don't show downvotes only, you literally cannot downvote on Hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 years ago Plus whenever somebody talks ill about the CCP over there they get barraged by copypasta responses. Their posts mirror popular posts on other servers, and generally lack any form of real discussion. The place looks like the bottiest of all instances and nothing can change my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Skill issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (7 children) A lot of troll accounts are semi-automated. They run a script that detects certain keywords, and posts premade replies to them (nowadays said premade replies are being finetuned with generative AI to look less uniform), also a human is watching over them to ensure both correct operation and to overtake in case of emergency. Source: My father's ex-girlfriend's ex-boyfriend was (is) a paid online troll for Fidesz. They also had Discord (later Matrix if I recall) servers for organizing mass reports, downvotes, angry/haha react campaigns, often they also did some "private doxxing". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments load more comments (7 replies) [–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago And large parts of .ml, which is the bridge for hexbear to all the instances which defederated with them. It really does feel like hexbear users are probably high fiving each other over their cubicle walls in Vladivostok. The admin openly states their goal is information warfare. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Marighost@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (4 children) I'm convinced those people have to be elaborate trolls. Like the flat earthers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 41 points 2 years ago (1 child) nah - they are very real. Maybe sock puppets but real. I imagine them like rich 15 year old kids beeing “rad and cool” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (18 children) Idk ozma was pushing a super hard the left should protest vote or not vote before getting called out in every thread. They have been slowly evolving the shill to be less and less obvious. Even started posting memes and other content to try and get the political agenda across without posting negative articles. Now the message isnt the very obvous up front don't vote, but they are just "critical of Biden," yet have nothing to say about anyone else. Doesn't seem like an edgy kid to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments load more comments (18 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [–] match@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago It's super neat being in a different federation group than other posters, I have no idea what the bad places are like permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (61 replies)
[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm fairly sure they aren't bots, but definitely pro Russia. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago bots, sockpuppets, infowarfare it's all different vlads in the same bag permalink fedilink source parent [–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) Last I checked hexbear had something like 70% more total comments than lemmy.world despite only having a tiny fraction of the users. Sounds like bots to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Hexbear has had an established and more active community for a longer time than Lemmy.world. You can visit Hexbear yourself and check, it's not illegal or anything. Over time Lemmy.world may overtake Hexbear, but not for a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have imagined that ever since the Reddit emigration hype ended and things settled down a bit here that the vast majority of world and shit users are mostly lurkers and not terribly vocal, as is the case on a lot of other platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well Hexbear also had a policy of not showing down votes to encourage users to respond if they disagree instead of just down voting and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* That's very ironic given that they ban anyone further left than "Capitalist Russia is the best country in the world! Let's support their invasion of Ukraine for no reason! Ughur genocide fake by the way! Is not so bad that Stalin banned being gay." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It's not that they don't show downvotes only, you literally cannot downvote on Hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 years ago Plus whenever somebody talks ill about the CCP over there they get barraged by copypasta responses. Their posts mirror popular posts on other servers, and generally lack any form of real discussion. The place looks like the bottiest of all instances and nothing can change my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Skill issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (7 children) A lot of troll accounts are semi-automated. They run a script that detects certain keywords, and posts premade replies to them (nowadays said premade replies are being finetuned with generative AI to look less uniform), also a human is watching over them to ensure both correct operation and to overtake in case of emergency. Source: My father's ex-girlfriend's ex-boyfriend was (is) a paid online troll for Fidesz. They also had Discord (later Matrix if I recall) servers for organizing mass reports, downvotes, angry/haha react campaigns, often they also did some "private doxxing". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments load more comments (7 replies)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago bots, sockpuppets, infowarfare it's all different vlads in the same bag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago (3 children) Last I checked hexbear had something like 70% more total comments than lemmy.world despite only having a tiny fraction of the users. Sounds like bots to me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Hexbear has had an established and more active community for a longer time than Lemmy.world. You can visit Hexbear yourself and check, it's not illegal or anything. Over time Lemmy.world may overtake Hexbear, but not for a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have imagined that ever since the Reddit emigration hype ended and things settled down a bit here that the vast majority of world and shit users are mostly lurkers and not terribly vocal, as is the case on a lot of other platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well Hexbear also had a policy of not showing down votes to encourage users to respond if they disagree instead of just down voting and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* That's very ironic given that they ban anyone further left than "Capitalist Russia is the best country in the world! Let's support their invasion of Ukraine for no reason! Ughur genocide fake by the way! Is not so bad that Stalin banned being gay." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It's not that they don't show downvotes only, you literally cannot downvote on Hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 years ago Plus whenever somebody talks ill about the CCP over there they get barraged by copypasta responses. Their posts mirror popular posts on other servers, and generally lack any form of real discussion. The place looks like the bottiest of all instances and nothing can change my mind. permalink fedilink source parent [–] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago Skill issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Hexbear has had an established and more active community for a longer time than Lemmy.world. You can visit Hexbear yourself and check, it's not illegal or anything. Over time Lemmy.world may overtake Hexbear, but not for a while. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have imagined that ever since the Reddit emigration hype ended and things settled down a bit here that the vast majority of world and shit users are mostly lurkers and not terribly vocal, as is the case on a lot of other platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well Hexbear also had a policy of not showing down votes to encourage users to respond if they disagree instead of just down voting and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* That's very ironic given that they ban anyone further left than "Capitalist Russia is the best country in the world! Let's support their invasion of Ukraine for no reason! Ughur genocide fake by the way! Is not so bad that Stalin banned being gay." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It's not that they don't show downvotes only, you literally cannot downvote on Hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children) I have imagined that ever since the Reddit emigration hype ended and things settled down a bit here that the vast majority of world and shit users are mostly lurkers and not terribly vocal, as is the case on a lot of other platforms. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well Hexbear also had a policy of not showing down votes to encourage users to respond if they disagree instead of just down voting and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* That's very ironic given that they ban anyone further left than "Capitalist Russia is the best country in the world! Let's support their invasion of Ukraine for no reason! Ughur genocide fake by the way! Is not so bad that Stalin banned being gay." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It's not that they don't show downvotes only, you literally cannot downvote on Hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well Hexbear also had a policy of not showing down votes to encourage users to respond if they disagree instead of just down voting and moving on. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* That's very ironic given that they ban anyone further left than "Capitalist Russia is the best country in the world! Let's support their invasion of Ukraine for no reason! Ughur genocide fake by the way! Is not so bad that Stalin banned being gay." permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It's not that they don't show downvotes only, you literally cannot downvote on Hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* That's very ironic given that they ban anyone further left than "Capitalist Russia is the best country in the world! Let's support their invasion of Ukraine for no reason! Ughur genocide fake by the way! Is not so bad that Stalin banned being gay." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It's not that they don't show downvotes only, you literally cannot downvote on Hexbear. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 years ago Plus whenever somebody talks ill about the CCP over there they get barraged by copypasta responses. Their posts mirror popular posts on other servers, and generally lack any form of real discussion. The place looks like the bottiest of all instances and nothing can change my mind. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (7 children) A lot of troll accounts are semi-automated. They run a script that detects certain keywords, and posts premade replies to them (nowadays said premade replies are being finetuned with generative AI to look less uniform), also a human is watching over them to ensure both correct operation and to overtake in case of emergency. Source: My father's ex-girlfriend's ex-boyfriend was (is) a paid online troll for Fidesz. They also had Discord (later Matrix if I recall) servers for organizing mass reports, downvotes, angry/haha react campaigns, often they also did some "private doxxing". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments load more comments (7 replies)
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago And large parts of .ml, which is the bridge for hexbear to all the instances which defederated with them. It really does feel like hexbear users are probably high fiving each other over their cubicle walls in Vladivostok. The admin openly states their goal is information warfare. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marighost@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (4 children) I'm convinced those people have to be elaborate trolls. Like the flat earthers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 41 points 2 years ago (1 child) nah - they are very real. Maybe sock puppets but real. I imagine them like rich 15 year old kids beeing “rad and cool” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (18 children) Idk ozma was pushing a super hard the left should protest vote or not vote before getting called out in every thread. They have been slowly evolving the shill to be less and less obvious. Even started posting memes and other content to try and get the political agenda across without posting negative articles. Now the message isnt the very obvous up front don't vote, but they are just "critical of Biden," yet have nothing to say about anyone else. Doesn't seem like an edgy kid to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments load more comments (18 replies) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 41 points 2 years ago (1 child) nah - they are very real. Maybe sock puppets but real. I imagine them like rich 15 year old kids beeing “rad and cool” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (18 children) Idk ozma was pushing a super hard the left should protest vote or not vote before getting called out in every thread. They have been slowly evolving the shill to be less and less obvious. Even started posting memes and other content to try and get the political agenda across without posting negative articles. Now the message isnt the very obvous up front don't vote, but they are just "critical of Biden," yet have nothing to say about anyone else. Doesn't seem like an edgy kid to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments load more comments (18 replies)
[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (18 children) Idk ozma was pushing a super hard the left should protest vote or not vote before getting called out in every thread. They have been slowly evolving the shill to be less and less obvious. Even started posting memes and other content to try and get the political agenda across without posting negative articles. Now the message isnt the very obvous up front don't vote, but they are just "critical of Biden," yet have nothing to say about anyone else. Doesn't seem like an edgy kid to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments load more comments (18 replies)
[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago It's super neat being in a different federation group than other posters, I have no idea what the bad places are like permalink fedilink source parent
