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I'm looking for a (preferrably) self-hostable, FLOSS web-shop application that is easy for end-users to use (WYSIWYG, no need for script languages necessary, etc). Any hints are much appreciated.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Congrats. You made the argument that popular == good.

WooCommerce also has an extensive extension list, integrations with all the payment providers out there and it's easy to get help / support be it free or payed

This is WordPress' biggest selling point, but it is also its biggest downfall. The vast majority of those "extensions" (plugins) are horribly made and are security nightmares, then they often only get you 90% of what you need so they can sell you the last 10% for a subscription fee. How would you know how to determine which ones are good or not? You need to be experienced enough with WordPress.

Yes, it is easy to get support, particularly paid (not "payed" FYI) but again, since WordPress is so popular, it's prime real-estate for shitty """WordPress Developers""" (not actually developers) to essentially bait people into their scam of pretending they are actually developers and providing work that leaves you worse off.

How do I know all of this? Well I happen to work with WordPress professionally as the lead developer for an agency where I manage literally hundreds of WordPress sites and host all of them myself on servers I manage for them (not shared hosting reselling).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

How do I know all of this? Well I happen to work with WordPress professionally as the lead developer for an agency where I manage literally hundreds of WordPress sites and host all of them myself on servers I manage for them (not shared hosting reselling).

I used to have the same role and before that I managed a shared hosting provider. At that job the majority of websites hosted there were WordPress and customers would pay us to develop or fix stuff sometimes.

The vast majority of those “extensions” (plugins) are horribly made and are security nightmares,

Yes, this is true and a problem, but at the same time the WordPress ecosystem, as you know, gets shit done.

I also had some experiences with PrestaShop/Magento and they are even worse than WordPress. You still have the performance issues, the 3rd party poorly developed themes and plugins and a convoluted API.