Vegoon comments on Inside the Republican effort to force millions of farm animals back into cages

[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (4 children)

Why is it ideal or even ethical to kill others "kosher or halal" when we don't have to kill in any way? How does this relate to them living in cages before?

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[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 0 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Both kosher and halal require you to kill the animal quickly and painlessly. I'd say the pasture raised is more important, since that's every other day of the animal's life, but I'd like the last day to also not suck.

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[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

Is the act of killing someone who does not want to die and does not need to die ethical if painless?

Have you seen non human animals that want to die for humans to be consumed by them? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmIqdlomtuSsJEoFi_L_pfEAPIxDRo4DB

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[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

I mean, if you're coming at it from the point of "there is no ethical meat consumption," then you're right, none of this means anything. It's a simple "don't ever eat meat."

In which case, kosher and halal are irrelevant. Pasture raised is still relevant because we need to discuss what ethical production of things like eggs and milk looks like.

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[–] Vegoon@feddit.de 1 point 3 years ago

I come from the point that if we don't have to kill or abuse others we should not. That is the case for most of us. You can't ethical impregnate a cow, steal the baby and drink their milk. Raising chicken breeds which can't stand on their own feet or get infections and tumors and just live to be exploited is not justifiable with taste.

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