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Elon Musk condemns the use of electronic voting machines (EVMs) used in general elections in some countries. (lemy.lol)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Seems almost paradoxical but yeah physical voting is the way to go https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

As others have said, the scalability ideal is to have electric/mechanical counters but with paper ballots. Keeps the paper trail for double checking, but also allows poll workers to deliver quick initial results to everyone breathing down their necks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that's how we do it up on Canada. I think random samples are hand-counted to make sure the machine count is accurate. There's early voting too so not all just in one day.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've never used a machine in 40 years of voting in Canada. And if they show up, I won't use them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We fill out a paper, but a machine might scan them based on what OP is saying.

Then they will spot check it and have the paper backup if needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's how we do it in my part of the US. And the whole thing is live streamed and audited. My mail ballot is also scanned twice, and I can check if it was received (and signature checks out) and counted. If there's an issue, I can correct my ballot before election day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well here in Germany we have about 40-50 million votes to count in a federal election. Right when the booths close we get an exit poll that is already pretty close. After 1-2 hours there are extrapolations that are even closer and next morning, there is usually the certified result. All on paper, counted by hand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately the software we use(d?) to transmitt and add up the votes is abysmal:

https://www.ccc.de/de/updates/2017/pc-wahl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J61-t3OJKg

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

My state does Scantron style ballots. You fill in the little ovals and put it into a machine to be counted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Did Musk figure out people will always rather want the opposite of what he is yapping about?