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A user on our instance reported a post on lemmynsfw as CSAM. Upon seeing the post, I looked at the community it was part of, and immediately purged all traces of that community from our instance.

I approached the admins of lemmynsfw and they assured me that the models with content in the community were all verified as being over 18. The fact that the community is explicitly focused on making the models appear as if they're not 18 was fine with them. The fact that both myself and one a member of this instance assumed it was CSAM, was fine with them. I was in fact told that I was body shaming.

I'm sorry for the lack of warning, but a community skirting the line trying to look like CSAM isn't a line I'm willing to walk. I have defederated lemmynsfw and won't be reinstating it whilst that community is active.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don’t be disingenuous. Genuine consent practices also consider that not everyone else consents to witnessing their play, so they don’t do it where it’s not welcomed. And it’s not welcomed on Blahaj Zone, in this case. That’s all.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exscuse me but you're the one being disengenious, a NSFW instance had what!? Porn!? Stop the fucking presses. Are we going to defederate from all porn instances or just the ones you find icky? Where can I post my objection to having to be subjected to porn at all?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me know when you find out what the word “disingenuous” means.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Responses are pointless, I'm going to remake my account in another instance when I'm done with work. Enjoy insulting people and living your prudish dreams

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's a little more complicated than that. If it were just a matter of not consenting to seeing their play, that community would be blocked. But instead, the entire instance has been defederated, so that's not really a fair comparison.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, could you rephrase that? I'm not sure I understand

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Leigh made an analogy to how in kink communities, it's generally not cool to involve people in your kink who didn't consent to it, and that defederating was basically just Blahaj Zone saying that they don't consent to seeing any sort of ageplay-adjacent content.

I'm saying that's a bad analogy, because they could just ban the offending content if that was the only concern; instead they've banned the entire instance by association. I'm not saying it's a bad call, just that it's a step beyond "don't involve me in your kink", it's now "I don't want to see anyone who lives in the same house as you while you do your kink, even if it has nothing to do with your kink."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It goes beyond even that, actually. This isn’t one individual making the decision for themselves, this is one individual making the decision for their entire household. “I don’t want anyone who lives in the same house as me to see anyone who lives in the same house as you, because you did your kink, even if it has nothing to do with your kink.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

At some point the metaphor starts falling apart a bit...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ah, I see. I agree

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it actually possible to instance-level ban a community that’s hosted by another instance without defederating? I’m under the belief that it isn’t, but if I’m wrong on that, then I think I’d agree with you here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is possible as far as I'm aware, I think Ada mentioned doing it before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That makes this all so much more infuriating then!