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No one should have to “grow a thicker skin”: Valorant studio commit to harsh penalties for harassment (www.rockpapershotgun.com)

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Geezus fucking hell, why did I watch the clip?

That's disgusting. I would argue two things need to happen across the board:

Companies need to collect IRL data if you want to have access to text/voice chat, verify them, and in situations such as these, hand them to the authorities. Yeah it's a tricky data protection problem, but these would be legally actionable threats IRL, they should not be let off the hook just because it was done online.
More importantly, companies themselves should be on the hook for failing to act. That is, if you want to provice text or voice chat or something, but also do not want to invest enough money to moderate these spaces, then you should be legally liable under the same logic as why the cases should be given to the police in the first place, you're aiding and abetting such threats. I suspect we'll very very quickly either see way stricter moderation (good) or the end of text/voice chat in many games (not ideal, but if they cannot be moderated, then so be it).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeahhhhh, I don't want a company which itself previously settled for a hundred million dollars in a gender discrimination suit to have every persons intimate personal data.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah fair enough. Good point. Legal consequences for online activity are always a tricky subject because of privacy issues. Can't trust the very companies I would like to be on the hook for not taking safety serious to in turn take safety of data serious.

(And of course too many people think "it's like the high seas", ignoring that those have more laws than many countries and hence why you need marine lawyers if you do shipping 😅)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I understand your passion, but I cannot trust any entity to use that amount of personal data responsibly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I totally missed the clip you were shocked by at first (I guess the Twitter embed didn't load the first time). Just went back to watch it and I don't understand how someone can be ok with saying that. Yeah I've heard sexist things and weird sexual harassment comments in games like valorant, overwatch, etc but that was absolutely disgusting. His casual tone says so much about him too. He's not even laughing where you could at least say "that's a stupid shitty joke". He has such a real tone to it that it's truly disturbing.

I agree with all of your points. It's unfortunate but I think we've gotten to the point that people need to be properly held accountable. Don't just ban them from the game, ban them from the entire platform and report them to local authorities for that. Hell, when someone is this nasty someone on the community team should send it to their employer. It's clearly a threat even if he has no way to see it through. This isn't just calling someone trash, or telling a woman to "go back to the kitchen". These people need to learn what real consequences are. It's truly disgusting behavior.