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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

That's not an average representation of the increase in the size of pickup trucks, though.

Just look at the Ford F150:

F150 in 70s versus today

Even if you compare like with like, pickups are around 30% heavier than they were in the 90s, and around 10-15% taller.

https://www.axios.com/2023/01/23/pickup-trucks-f150-size-weight-safety

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Nah the actual space you can use shrunk while the truck got bigger. That's insane

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Compare a '90s F-150 to a 2024 Ranger. Then compare a '90s Ranger to a 2024 Maverick. Arguably, what Ford really did was that it added a third, bigger-than-full-size, truck and shifted the names one notch up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The Maverick is new and while it does buck the trend of "bigger is always better", all it signifies to me is that Ford are diversifying their range of pickups now that they don't make any small cars or sedans in the US any more, which is kind of emblematic of the whole problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's a good point.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's comparing a regular can with a crew cab.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They didn't have crew cabs back then, which is kinda the point.

Edit: correction - they did, but it wasn't until the mid-2000s that they became common.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

As opposed to now, where I have to do a double take whenever I see a modern single cab. AFAIK, they are now special order and some models don't even offer them.