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From 30 May, New Zealand's four major banks - ANZ, ASB, BNZ and Westpac - must offer the secure payment service - although some already have it in place.

It allows customers to give a third party (such as an online retailer) permission to connect to their banking information, meaning there is no need to enter credit or debit card details to make a purchase.

Open banking can be used both on retailers' websites and on their mobile app, if they have one

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is this going to give retailers access to account histories etc? Insurance companies?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It sounds similar to the UK's open banking system. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/517885/open-banking-how-to-opt-in-and-out-of-the-new-payment-system

I use UK open banking often. I'm always asked to approve the specific access requested, and this takes place at my bank's website or app. This could be permission to take an amount of money; or for apps which manage multiple accounts (e.g. Emma) this could be all historical transactions; or my accountant uses an open banking service provider (Armalytix) to request transactions for an explicit date range. So far, touch wood, there's always been an alternative - for example I can use open banking to send my transactions to my accountant or I can manually download a CSV statement from my bank and upload it into their portal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From my understanding, the answer is yes, on an opt in basis. Any organisation (that signs up and follows the rules) can request access and you need to approve a prompt.

However, the 30 May date is just for payments. Account sharing comes later and depends on the bank.

However, if you're worried about moving into a world where this is required... You're probably right to be worried.

It's not exactly opt in if it's "share your data or we won't give you insurance".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is going to be share your data or no insurance.

Damn, these are dark times, just around the corner.

This will crush people. We think Americans have it rough. Just wait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They'll already insist on whatever information they feel is useful. This just saves them from scanning in your statements.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And working in finance (in UK & Europe), they generally collect and keep as little data as is necessary anyhow - personal data is a pain to safely manage these days, and I'm always keen to be responsible for as little of it as possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You live in Europe. I live in Australia. I don't know about NZ, but it's the wild west here. I don't trust any of these companies.

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