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The massive push to increase electric vehicle adoption and restrict gas-powered car sales could inadvertently lead to higher emissions and consumer costs.

The article is kinda vague, but has some gems:

"It depends on when and where you charge the vehicle," he told Fox News Digital. "Then you have to add to that, the emissions that occur before you get the vehicle in your driveway for the first time because all vehicles entail CO2 emissions associated with the energy you use to build the vehicle. You use of materials and machines to build everything."
"For an internal combustion engine, something on the order of 15 to 20% of the emissions that is associated with the vehicle over its lifetime of operating occur before you drive it," he continued. "With an electric vehicle, the share of emissions range from 15% to 100% of total lifecycle emissions. And they're far greater than the conventional vehicle because you're building a fuel tank, a battery, on difficult-to-acquire metals."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@cooopsspace @Aatube
Tens of millions of people won't have their lungs and health wrecked by urban smog.
Not to mention the dramatic drop in noise pollution with big diesels off the road.
And electric vehicles can be fueled with renewables - a sustainable energy supply.
That's something good, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What I'm saying is that some cities of the world are 1:1 adult person to car ratio.

I'd like to see that be more like 10:1.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Problem is they're still cars, which are quite expensive to maintain infrastructure for. Plus electric vehicles have a lot more weight and less control which causes a lot more road wear, and roads are made from oil, and also pollute.