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Chicken vs Egg (mander.xyz)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just don't get why you're so hung up on the potentiality of an unhatched egg when that has nothing to do with the scenario. The egg in the scenario hatches and it has a chicken in it. That's the whole point of the scenario.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The potential of an unhatched egg means that the egg can't be accurately described as belonging to the offspring, until the offspring actually exists.

The proto-chicken egg does become a chicken egg, but not until a chicken exists. While the egg that will eventually become a chicken egg does exist before the chicken, it is not a chicken egg until the chicken exists. Until there is a chicken, it is just the egg of a proto-chicken.

We are discussing which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg. The answer cannot be the egg. The answer can be "neither". The answer can the "the chicken", if by "before", we mean that the status of the egg is dependent on the existence of the chicken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Exactly, it doesn't belong to the offspring, that's why I said it is a proto-chicken's egg. It belongs to the ones that made it and raised it. But we know the contents because it's a preset hypothetical in which the egg hatches and it has a chicken in it. So it's a chicken egg that belongs to proto-chickens.