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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

OP is tilting at windmills. Here you go:

By Dominic Gates and Lauren Rosenblatt Seattle Times staff reporters

Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems and one of the first whistleblowers to allege Spirit leadership had ignored manufacturing defects on the 737 MAX, died Tuesday morning after a struggle with a sudden, fast-spreading infection.

Known as Josh, Dean lived in Wichita, Kan., where Spirit is based. He was 45, had been in good health and was noted for having a healthy lifestyle.

He died after two weeks in critical condition, his aunt Carol Parsons said.

Spirit spokesperson Joe Buccino said: “Our thoughts are with Josh Dean’s family. This sudden loss is stunning news here and for his loved ones.”

Dean had given a deposition in a Spirit shareholder lawsuit and also filed a complaint with the Federal Aviation Administration alleging “serious and gross misconduct by senior quality management of the 737 production line” at Spirit.

Spirit fired Dean in April 2023, and he had filed a complaint with the Department of Labor alleging his termination was in retaliation for raising concerns related to aviation safety.

Parsons said Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago. He was intubated and developed pneumonia and then a serious bacterial infection, MRSA.

His condition deteriorated rapidly, and he was airlifted from Wichita to a hospital in Oklahoma City, Parsons said. There he was put on an ECMO machine, which circulates and oxygenates a patient’s blood outside the body, taking over heart and lung function when a patient’s organs don’t work on their own.

His mother posted a message Friday on Facebook relating all those details and saying that Dean was “fighting for his life.”

He was heavily sedated and put on dialysis. A CT scan indicated he had suffered a stroke, his mom’s post said.

By the end, doctors were considering amputating both hands and both feet. “It was brutal what he went through,” Parsons said. “Heartbreaking.”

Dean was represented by a law firm in South Carolina that also represented Boeing whistleblower John “Mitch” Barnett.

Barnett was found dead in an apparent suicide in March. He was in the midst of giving depositions alleging Boeing retaliated against him for complaints about quality lapses when he was found dead from a gunshot wound in Charleston, S.C., where Boeing has its 787 manufacturing facility.

The Charleston County Coroner’s Office reported Barnett’s death appeared to be “from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.” Almost two months later, the police investigation into his death is still ongoing.

Brian Knowles, one of Dean’s lawyers, said he didn’t want to speculate about the close timing and circumstances of the two deaths.

“Whistleblowers are needed. They bring to light wrongdoing and corruption in the interests of society. It takes a lot of courage to stand up,” Knowles said. “It’s a difficult set of circumstances. Our thoughts now are with John’s family and Josh’s family.”

Dean, a mechanical engineer, began working at Spirit in 2019. He was laid off the next year following pandemic-related job cuts and returned to Spirit in May 2021 as a quality auditor.

In October 2022, Dean said he found a serious manufacturing defect: mechanics improperly drilling holes in the aft pressure bulkhead of the MAX. When he flagged this issue with management, he said nothing was done.

Focused on those defects, he said he missed during that same audit a separate manufacturing flaw in the fittings that attach the vertical tail fin to the fuselage. When that was discovered in April and caused a delivery pause at Boeing’s Renton plant, Dean was fired.

Then in August, Spirit announced the discovery of improperly drilled holes in the MAX’s aft pressure bulkhead, a flaw that was present in MAXs built as early as 2019. This caused another delivery halt in Renton.

With that discovery, Dean filed a safety complaint with the FAA. He said Spirit had used him as a scapegoat and had lied to the FAA about the aft pressure bulkhead defects.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Joshua Dean, a former quality auditor at Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems and one of the first whistleblowers to allege Spirit leadership had ignored manufacturing defects on the 737 MAX, died Tuesday morning after a struggle with a sudden, fast-spreading infection.  Known as Josh, Dean lived in Wichita, Kan., where Spirit is based. He was 45, had been in good health and was noted for having a healthy lifestyle. He died after two weeks in critical condition, his aunt Carol Parsons said. Spirit spokesperson Joe Buccino said: “Our thoughts are with Josh Dean’s family. This sudden loss is stunning news here and for his loved ones.” Dean had given a deposition in a Spirit shareholder lawsuit and also filed a complaint with the Federal Aviation Administration alleging “serious and gross misconduct by senior quality management of the 737 production line” at Spirit. Spirit fired Dean in April 2023, and he had filed a complaint with the Department of Labor alleging his termination was in retaliation for raising concerns related to aviation safety.

Parsons said Dean became ill and went to the hospital because he was having trouble breathing just over two weeks ago. He was intubated and developed pneumonia and then a serious bacterial infection, MRSA. His condition deteriorated rapidly, and he was airlifted from Wichita to a hospital in Oklahoma City, Parsons said. There he was put on an ECMO machine, which circulates and oxygenates a patient’s blood outside the body, taking over heart and lung function when a patient’s organs don’t work on their own. His mother posted a message Friday on Facebook relating all those details and saying that Dean was “fighting for his life.” He was heavily sedated and put on dialysis. A CT scan indicated he had suffered a stroke, his mom’s post said. By the end, doctors were considering amputating both hands and both feet. “It was brutal what he went through,” Parsons said. “Heartbreaking.” Dean was represented by a law firm in South Carolina that also represented Boeing whistleblower John “Mitch” Barnett.

Barnett was found dead in an apparent suicide in March. He was in the midst of giving depositions alleging Boeing retaliated against him for complaints about quality lapses when he was found dead from a gunshot wound in Charleston, S.C., where Boeing has its 787 manufacturing facility.  The Charleston County Coroner’s Office reported Barnett’s death appeared to be “from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.” Almost two months later, the police investigation into his death is still ongoing. Brian Knowles, one of Dean’s lawyers, said he didn’t want to speculate about the close timing and circumstances of the two deaths.

“Whistleblowers are needed. They bring to light wrongdoing and corruption in the interests of society. It takes a lot of courage to stand up,” Knowles said. “It’s a difficult set of circumstances. Our thoughts now are with John’s family and Josh’s family.” Dean, a mechanical engineer, began working at Spirit in 2019. He was laid off the next year following pandemic-related job cuts and returned to Spirit in May 2021 as a quality auditor. In October 2022, Dean said he found a serious manufacturing defect: mechanics improperly drilling holes in the aft pressure bulkhead of the MAX. When he flagged this issue with management, he said nothing was done.

Focused on those defects, he said he missed during that same audit a separate manufacturing flaw in the fittings that attach the vertical tail fin to the fuselage. When that was discovered in April and caused a delivery pause at Boeing’s Renton plant, Dean was fired. Then in August, Spirit announced the discovery of improperly drilled holes in the MAX’s aft pressure bulkhead, a flaw that was present in MAXs built as early as 2019. This caused another delivery halt in Renton. With that discovery, Dean filed a safety complaint with the FAA. He said Spirit had used him as a scapegoat and had lied to the FAA about the aft pressure bulkhead defects.

“After I was fired, Spirit AeroSystems [initially] did nothing to inform the FAA, and the public” about their knowledge of the aft pressure bulkhead defects, he wrote in his complaint. In November, the FAA sent Dean a letter stating that it had completed an investigation of the safety issues he had flagged. The letter cloaks the outcome though it seems to confirm that his allegations had substance. “The investigation determined that your allegations were appropriately addressed under an FAA-approved safety program,” the FAA wrote. “However, due to the privacy provisions of those programs, specific details cannot be released.” Sponsored Skip Ad

That same month, Dean filed his aviation whistleblower complaint with the Department of Labor, alleging wrongful termination and “gross misconduct of senior level Spirit AeroSystems Quality Managers.” That case was still pending. After he left Spirit, Dean took a job for a short time at Boeing Wichita, then left to work for another company. The shareholder lawsuit alleging that Spirit management withheld information on the quality flaws and harmed stockholders was filed in December. Supporting the suit, Dean provided a deposition detailing his allegations. After a panel blew off a Boeing 737 MAX plane in January, bringing new attention to the quality lapses at Spirit, one of Dean’s former Spirit colleagues confirmed some of Dean’s allegations.

Dominic Gates: 206-464-2963 or [email protected]; Dominic Gates is a Pulitzer Prize-winning aerospace journalist for The Seattle Times. Lauren Rosenblatt: 206-464-2927 or [email protected];

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If you only want to consume news that someone with a bunch of spare money is willing to pay to have you hear, you're embarking on a process that eventually leads to you and lots of other people not really knowing what's going on.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Want is not the correct word. I know I am not able to afford every single news source that asks for a sub fee. Or honestly even a few of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that's fair -- if there's a huge variety of news sources posted, so that the model is that you subscribe to /c/news but have to pay $50/month to all sorts of places to actually read the articles (even to subscribe the main sources posted), then it's a problem.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

What does the second bullet-point specify in the guidelines for submissions in this community?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

On my screen it says "Mods are encouraging the users to unintentionally undermine journalism as a workable endeavor, when it's already badly struggling in this country." What's yours say?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mine says "Defining journalism as a strictly capitalist endeavor is self-defeating".

Few people have the money or wherewithal to subscribe to every small town newspaper in the country, much less the world, just so they can read articles you post. And getting bent out of shape at people trying to live their lives as informed as possible without being squeezed dry of every penny they have is ludicrous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Ha, I'd like to keep arguing but it seems that me and the Beehaw mods / community simply don't see this issue the same way. Is ok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where can I pay ~~anonymously~~ privately?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Get a gift card and a proton.me address, maybe? IDK

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Consuming all media this way is burdensome and ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Have fun having all your (and everyone else's) media supplied by the Koch Brothers because you didn't feel like finding someone worth paying $7/month to

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been having no problem avoiding them for free for decades. Making petty threats just makes you sound unreasonable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You would describe the current state of the US, and the way the majority of the people in it view the world and how they understand what's going on and what they should do (about climate change, about politics and who to support), to be no problem?

Or you think that where people get their news and their understanding of the world plays no part in the massive problems that are at work in the country?

I'm not trying to get into a big back and forth with you about it. You can have your own opinion on those things and you're welcome to it. But it's not at all a petty thing (to me at least), and it's not any kind of outlandish threat -- it is the simple present day reality. In my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Do you often make yourself feel better by inventing insulting fantasies about the people you talk to online? How could anyone expect to have a reasonable, good faith discourse with someone who speaks to others the way you do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Dude I'm super condescending, I know. Sorry if I was coming across insulting which I probably was. But the whole mindset of, we better dodge the paywalls every chance we get, (edit: which, whether it's intended this way or not, might as well translate to) "lol get fucked people who produce the news who are going out of business left and right" irritates me.

I think your mindset of (edit: corrected the quote) "I’ve been having no problem avoiding them for free for decades" and not being interested apparently in looking further into it than that, is harmful. I explained why, probably with more hostility than needed to be there. But I still think it's harmful.

Edit: Made some edits to try to be more fair minded about it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I never said those things, and you’re assuming a whole lot about me and what I think while taking out your frustrations on me which is shitty. And you’ve already made your feelings very clear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I fixed my comment to make more of an effort at fairness, then. Cheers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Lol, you quoted me accurately, but I see no fairness. Just a lot of emotion and certainly nothing to back up the multitude of your claims.

Frankly, after your outburst and your behavior m o don’t see why I owe you a second more of my time.

Blocked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Seattle Times is not some bastion of good journalism. They have been known to have a right center bias for a long time. Also, why would anyone outside Seattle pay for the Seattle times? You are hard arguing for a site with a lot of reasons to not pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What kind of gift card? They seem to accept some "promo code", but if that's coming from a gift card specific to this site, no one will be able to use that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

If you really feel like the Seattle Times knowing your real name is a catastrophe, you can buy one of those Vanilla Visa gift cards and use that for the subscription. I think that's not necessary, but it's certainly an option.