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[+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -17 points 3 years ago* (2 children) Abortion should be legal at any trimester, for any reason. I disagree, but once again, almost any western nation disagrees with you. No one has the right to use your body without your consent There's a decent argument bringing a life into this world by choice is consent. Pretty sure that’s how it is in Canada. Canada is one of the very few nations to decriminalize abortions totally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 years ago (2 children) Great, so Canada got it right, and you're obviously swinging the weight of "western nations" as if it has any relevance. What matters is what can be argued to be correct, and I've argued that using bodily autonomy. You've argued... You're right because most western nations agree. Totally barbaric and ignorant of my argument, but that's obvious. You completely misunderstand consent, but that's not surprising. I was taught that consent can be withdrawn, but you imply like she has to sit there and take it if she consented originally. Bizarre view of consent you have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] tallwookie@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago surprising really, Canada could use more citizens/a higher tax base. really, very few people in Canada, all told permalink fedilink source parent [+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Great, so Canada got it right No, they enacted a policy that you agree with. That doesn't make it 'right.' and you’re obviously swinging the weight of “western nations” as if it has any relevance. It does, we're most comparable with other first world countries and specifically western countries. Pretty much in every comparable metric where we want to see how we're doing, we compare it to first world european nations. What matters is what can be argued to be correct There is no 'correct' - just because you agree with it, doesn't mean every single country needs to listen to you and enact policies you agree with. You have mad main character syndrome. Believe it or, people disagree with some of your opinions, and that doesn't make them 'wrong' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) do you actually argue why abortion should be legal or illegal. Because that's not my argument, that's what you want to argue. I'm simply stating that almost every single other western country, even ones that are much more liberal than the U.S., has laws restricting abortions in the scenario that this woman had an abortion. If the U.S. is a shithole 3rd world country because of this, those nations surely are as well. Nebraska's abortion policy at this time was more liberal than europes, who we offten compare our policies to. I'm also arguing that just because you think a policy would be good, doesn't make it 'right' for the other 7 billion people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that you don't have to argue. You're the same guy I'm replying to from yesterday about this very topic. I'm laughing so hard that here you are spending all your energy taking about what most western countries do or do not do, but you STILL won't argue for or against bodily autonomy, for or against abortion. You have no argument! You just want to talk about things that are completely irrelevant, like what policy has been decided. It's irrelevant! Argue or admit you can't justify what you believe. This is my 3rd reply to you and you never argue or justify anything, just more invitation to meaningless conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You’re arguing that you don’t have to argue. My argument is that our abortion policies tend to be in line, or more liberal than many of the western countries the left looks up to. I'd be fine with a 12 week ban, that's in much of western europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] transmatrix@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where is your evidence that “almost every western nation disagrees with you”? Because I’ve seen many polls that say otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) The fact that almost every other western democratic nation has abortion policies more restrictive than most american states. Almost every single one has the limit under 14 weeks. Notable exceptions: Netherlands - 24 weeks Iceland - 22 weeks Sweden - 18 weeks None of these countries would permit an abortion at 28 weeks, let alone let her keep the babies remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] transmatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You said disagree. Since when have laws been indicative of current public opinion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago The country as a whole has laws that disagree with it. The U.S. doesn't permit honor killings, as a country we're against it. In Iran, it's legal, the country agrees with it. It's not that hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transmatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 years ago (2 children) Great, so Canada got it right, and you're obviously swinging the weight of "western nations" as if it has any relevance. What matters is what can be argued to be correct, and I've argued that using bodily autonomy. You've argued... You're right because most western nations agree. Totally barbaric and ignorant of my argument, but that's obvious. You completely misunderstand consent, but that's not surprising. I was taught that consent can be withdrawn, but you imply like she has to sit there and take it if she consented originally. Bizarre view of consent you have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] tallwookie@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago surprising really, Canada could use more citizens/a higher tax base. really, very few people in Canada, all told permalink fedilink source parent [+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Great, so Canada got it right No, they enacted a policy that you agree with. That doesn't make it 'right.' and you’re obviously swinging the weight of “western nations” as if it has any relevance. It does, we're most comparable with other first world countries and specifically western countries. Pretty much in every comparable metric where we want to see how we're doing, we compare it to first world european nations. What matters is what can be argued to be correct There is no 'correct' - just because you agree with it, doesn't mean every single country needs to listen to you and enact policies you agree with. You have mad main character syndrome. Believe it or, people disagree with some of your opinions, and that doesn't make them 'wrong' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) do you actually argue why abortion should be legal or illegal. Because that's not my argument, that's what you want to argue. I'm simply stating that almost every single other western country, even ones that are much more liberal than the U.S., has laws restricting abortions in the scenario that this woman had an abortion. If the U.S. is a shithole 3rd world country because of this, those nations surely are as well. Nebraska's abortion policy at this time was more liberal than europes, who we offten compare our policies to. I'm also arguing that just because you think a policy would be good, doesn't make it 'right' for the other 7 billion people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that you don't have to argue. You're the same guy I'm replying to from yesterday about this very topic. I'm laughing so hard that here you are spending all your energy taking about what most western countries do or do not do, but you STILL won't argue for or against bodily autonomy, for or against abortion. You have no argument! You just want to talk about things that are completely irrelevant, like what policy has been decided. It's irrelevant! Argue or admit you can't justify what you believe. This is my 3rd reply to you and you never argue or justify anything, just more invitation to meaningless conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You’re arguing that you don’t have to argue. My argument is that our abortion policies tend to be in line, or more liberal than many of the western countries the left looks up to. I'd be fine with a 12 week ban, that's in much of western europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] tallwookie@lemmy.world -7 points 3 years ago surprising really, Canada could use more citizens/a higher tax base. really, very few people in Canada, all told permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Great, so Canada got it right No, they enacted a policy that you agree with. That doesn't make it 'right.' and you’re obviously swinging the weight of “western nations” as if it has any relevance. It does, we're most comparable with other first world countries and specifically western countries. Pretty much in every comparable metric where we want to see how we're doing, we compare it to first world european nations. What matters is what can be argued to be correct There is no 'correct' - just because you agree with it, doesn't mean every single country needs to listen to you and enact policies you agree with. You have mad main character syndrome. Believe it or, people disagree with some of your opinions, and that doesn't make them 'wrong' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) do you actually argue why abortion should be legal or illegal. Because that's not my argument, that's what you want to argue. I'm simply stating that almost every single other western country, even ones that are much more liberal than the U.S., has laws restricting abortions in the scenario that this woman had an abortion. If the U.S. is a shithole 3rd world country because of this, those nations surely are as well. Nebraska's abortion policy at this time was more liberal than europes, who we offten compare our policies to. I'm also arguing that just because you think a policy would be good, doesn't make it 'right' for the other 7 billion people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that you don't have to argue. You're the same guy I'm replying to from yesterday about this very topic. I'm laughing so hard that here you are spending all your energy taking about what most western countries do or do not do, but you STILL won't argue for or against bodily autonomy, for or against abortion. You have no argument! You just want to talk about things that are completely irrelevant, like what policy has been decided. It's irrelevant! Argue or admit you can't justify what you believe. This is my 3rd reply to you and you never argue or justify anything, just more invitation to meaningless conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You’re arguing that you don’t have to argue. My argument is that our abortion policies tend to be in line, or more liberal than many of the western countries the left looks up to. I'd be fine with a 12 week ban, that's in much of western europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) do you actually argue why abortion should be legal or illegal. Because that's not my argument, that's what you want to argue. I'm simply stating that almost every single other western country, even ones that are much more liberal than the U.S., has laws restricting abortions in the scenario that this woman had an abortion. If the U.S. is a shithole 3rd world country because of this, those nations surely are as well. Nebraska's abortion policy at this time was more liberal than europes, who we offten compare our policies to. I'm also arguing that just because you think a policy would be good, doesn't make it 'right' for the other 7 billion people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that you don't have to argue. You're the same guy I'm replying to from yesterday about this very topic. I'm laughing so hard that here you are spending all your energy taking about what most western countries do or do not do, but you STILL won't argue for or against bodily autonomy, for or against abortion. You have no argument! You just want to talk about things that are completely irrelevant, like what policy has been decided. It's irrelevant! Argue or admit you can't justify what you believe. This is my 3rd reply to you and you never argue or justify anything, just more invitation to meaningless conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You’re arguing that you don’t have to argue. My argument is that our abortion policies tend to be in line, or more liberal than many of the western countries the left looks up to. I'd be fine with a 12 week ban, that's in much of western europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MasterObee@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (1 child) do you actually argue why abortion should be legal or illegal. Because that's not my argument, that's what you want to argue. I'm simply stating that almost every single other western country, even ones that are much more liberal than the U.S., has laws restricting abortions in the scenario that this woman had an abortion. If the U.S. is a shithole 3rd world country because of this, those nations surely are as well. Nebraska's abortion policy at this time was more liberal than europes, who we offten compare our policies to. I'm also arguing that just because you think a policy would be good, doesn't make it 'right' for the other 7 billion people in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that you don't have to argue. You're the same guy I'm replying to from yesterday about this very topic. I'm laughing so hard that here you are spending all your energy taking about what most western countries do or do not do, but you STILL won't argue for or against bodily autonomy, for or against abortion. You have no argument! You just want to talk about things that are completely irrelevant, like what policy has been decided. It's irrelevant! Argue or admit you can't justify what you believe. This is my 3rd reply to you and you never argue or justify anything, just more invitation to meaningless conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You’re arguing that you don’t have to argue. My argument is that our abortion policies tend to be in line, or more liberal than many of the western countries the left looks up to. I'd be fine with a 12 week ban, that's in much of western europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) You're arguing that you don't have to argue. You're the same guy I'm replying to from yesterday about this very topic. I'm laughing so hard that here you are spending all your energy taking about what most western countries do or do not do, but you STILL won't argue for or against bodily autonomy, for or against abortion. You have no argument! You just want to talk about things that are completely irrelevant, like what policy has been decided. It's irrelevant! Argue or admit you can't justify what you believe. This is my 3rd reply to you and you never argue or justify anything, just more invitation to meaningless conversation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You’re arguing that you don’t have to argue. My argument is that our abortion policies tend to be in line, or more liberal than many of the western countries the left looks up to. I'd be fine with a 12 week ban, that's in much of western europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago (1 child) You’re arguing that you don’t have to argue. My argument is that our abortion policies tend to be in line, or more liberal than many of the western countries the left looks up to. I'd be fine with a 12 week ban, that's in much of western europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't care! This is exactly what I meant about conservative misdirection when YOU were CRYING yesterday about how everyone ridicules conservatives on reddit/lemmy. Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, by definition. You refuse to engage my argument because you have no response. So you argue ANYTHING else, you ask me to consider your own arguments, knowing you'll trap and misdirect at every turn. Abortion should be legal because we should have a right to our own bodies. Ultimately, you don't believe in this right, which is why you avoid the topic. If you want to know why I treat you like other conservatives, it's because you act like other conservatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Please keep this discussion civil, per rule 1. Don't personally attack people who don't agree with you. Go to twitter if you want to do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hotdaniel@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 years ago I don't see how I'm personally attacking them, nor do I intend to. When I said they were crying, I was referencing their comment from yesterday. I want to attack their ideas, which do not need to be respected. I respect their right to have their opinion heard and that's why I've repeatedly asked this user to argue the topic, as of yesterday. They will not. They also complained that they were unfairly persecuted, while they respond to threads like this one, asserting their opinion, arguing irrelevant topics, never engaging my position. I'd call them a troll but I think they're sincere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] transmatrix@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Where is your evidence that “almost every western nation disagrees with you”? Because I’ve seen many polls that say otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) The fact that almost every other western democratic nation has abortion policies more restrictive than most american states. Almost every single one has the limit under 14 weeks. Notable exceptions: Netherlands - 24 weeks Iceland - 22 weeks Sweden - 18 weeks None of these countries would permit an abortion at 28 weeks, let alone let her keep the babies remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] transmatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You said disagree. Since when have laws been indicative of current public opinion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago The country as a whole has laws that disagree with it. The U.S. doesn't permit honor killings, as a country we're against it. In Iran, it's legal, the country agrees with it. It's not that hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transmatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (3 children) The fact that almost every other western democratic nation has abortion policies more restrictive than most american states. Almost every single one has the limit under 14 weeks. Notable exceptions: Netherlands - 24 weeks Iceland - 22 weeks Sweden - 18 weeks None of these countries would permit an abortion at 28 weeks, let alone let her keep the babies remains. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] transmatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You said disagree. Since when have laws been indicative of current public opinion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago The country as a whole has laws that disagree with it. The U.S. doesn't permit honor killings, as a country we're against it. In Iran, it's legal, the country agrees with it. It's not that hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent [+] transmatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] transmatrix@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) You said disagree. Since when have laws been indicative of current public opinion? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago The country as a whole has laws that disagree with it. The U.S. doesn't permit honor killings, as a country we're against it. In Iran, it's legal, the country agrees with it. It's not that hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago The country as a whole has laws that disagree with it. The U.S. doesn't permit honor killings, as a country we're against it. In Iran, it's legal, the country agrees with it. It's not that hard to understand. permalink fedilink source parent