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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Edward Zitron has been reading all of google's internal emails that have been released as evidence in the DOJ's antitrust case against google.

This is the story of how Google Search died, and the people responsible for killing it.

The story begins on February 5th 2019, when Ben Gomes, Google’s head of search, had a problem. Jerry Dischler, then the VP and General Manager of Ads at Google, and Shiv Venkataraman, then the VP of Engineering, Search and Ads on Google properties, had called a “code yellow” for search revenue due to, and I quote, “steady weakness in the daily numbers” and a likeliness that it would end the quarter significantly behind.

HackerNews thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976

MetaFilter thread: https://www.metafilter.com/203456/The-core-query-softness-continues-without-mitigation

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Not really. Unlike other three, he was not born and brought up in India.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Are we playing a game where we list the names of greedy fucks who have ruined society? Because I assure you that we're looking at a ration of 10:1, at least, of white names vs. any other ethnicity. And that's being extremely generous. It's all old white dudes.

Stop fooling yourself. Power is defined by "whiteness," it's literally a synonym for systemic power and control. If you're in a position to negatively affect society in such a way, then you're white.

Naming a handful of outliers means nothing. Not to mention that those people have all been furthering the goals of that systemic "white" control structure, regardless of their skin color.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ah another racist . Why can't you people just graso the simple that some people are just assholes and its just a person and not a race thing ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I'm the racist? The fuck lol

Calling out the person claiming Indian CEOs are greedy because they're Indian, for being racist is the actual racist.

Go fuck yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Have the few brain cells of yours ever banded together and maybe considered that if you're conflating "white" with "negative effects for society", then maybe you are indeed a racist?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I didn't do that, you just did. Try to grasp a little nuance.

On a systemic level, "white," is power. Power often means negative, yes.

In the US, are Italian Americans considered white? Yes. How about Irish? Hard to think of many people whiter than the Irish. I say this as an American of Irish descent.

And yet, their inclusion in this definition is relatively recent. Up until recently, Irish and Italian people were decidedly not white. And yet, the color of their pale skin...? I don't understand?

So clearly, the term (at the systemic level, obviously, I'm not talking about individual racism) is elastic. It is culturally defined in the context of the times.

At a systemic level, "racism" implies oppression by that power. Oppression against "whiteness" at a systemic level is not possible because there is no power in a position to oppress whites. By definition, they're at the top.

I fully expect you to just gloss over everything I said and call me racist again. Maybe someone will read this and think twice about how they view these things.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Bold of you to assume they have braincells

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I don't think they claimed they were greedy because they were Indian. I think it is more of a question on why the Indian people who have been successful in tech are implementing the profit motive policies and what overlapping culture we share with India that would lead people to that capitalistic goal of profits over product. Isn't that something worth exploring? I think it already has led to an educational discussion where one commentor mentioned the history of worker actions in India.