Hello everyone,
I would like to get started with selfhost with two projects.
Project A (for me): A NUC with Proxmox installed on it, two VMs including a Home Assistant and a NAS system that I haven't chosen yet.
The only question I have with this project is:
- how to access the NAS and HA separately from the outside knowing that my access provider does not offer a static IP and that access to each VM must be differentiated from Proxmox.
~~Project B (for my uncle):~~ ~~A NUC (with Proxmox or not, I don't know yet, perhaps simpler for making backups), with HA but especially Frigate.~~ ~~The goal is to use Google Coral to do recognition on 3 video surveillance cameras.~~
~~My questions are:~~
- ~~is Coral really useful with 3 cameras?~~
- ~~do you need a Coral in USB or M.2 version?~~
- ~~are there affordable NUCs with free M.2 slots?~~
- ~~won't proxmox add a layer of complexity with Coral/Frigate/a Zigbee dongle?~~
Thank you in advance for your help and sorry if my post is long.
~~PS: if you have recommendations for cameras that work with Frigate and are self-powered with solar panels, I'll take them!~~
Edit : 8 april 2024
A little update. Thank you everyone for your super quick responses!
Regarding my uncle's project and after big discussions, he is going to buy Reolink cameras and that's it. This will be much simpler for maintenance than building a server.
Regarding my project: I chose a Beelink Mini S12 pro with an N100 processor (for its low consumption) with a 2.5 bay for an SSD for my Nextcloud.
I wondered if I wouldn't take the opportunity to add pihole and that's where new questions arise...
I see a lot of people installing Pihole on Docker, should I put it on Docker? Or create a VM?
Should Docker be installed on Proxmox or on a VM?
Is Proxmox really useful, shouldn't I better install HA/Nextcloud/Pihole under Docker directly?
Should I use LXC or Docker?
Tailscale is great, but it's not something that should be shouted from the rooftops.
I use tailscale with nginx / pihole for my home services BUT there will be a point where the "free" tier of their service will be gutted / monetized and your once so free, private service won't be so free.
Tailscale are SAAS (software as a service), once their venture capital funds look like their running dry, the funds will be coming from your data, limiting the service with a push to subscription models or a combination.
Nebula is one such alternative, headscale is another. Wire guard (which tailscale is based on) again is another.
I hear what you're saying and honestly it's not something I had thought about, so thanks for that.
For myself I should be good if your prediction comes true since I already have Home Assistant through my own domain using Cloudflare. I could theoretically move all my stuff to my own domain and Nginx, etc.
I like Tailscale because I don't have to do all that. I'm new to Self Hosting (no I'm new to running multiple VMs) so finding something that just works with minimal effort is great for a noob. I wanna learn the things (networking), but I wanna learn other things (loads!) first.
Cloudflare and a Domain wasn't as hard as DuckDNS and Nginx, but Tailscale was easier and cheaper than that in my adventures on Home Assistant. I've gone from hard to easy mode.
At some point a hobby has to cost money, I may be happy to pay for Tailscale if there's more features. I'd like to replace SMB mounts with Tailnet mounts, but currently that's not a thing to my knowledge.
Oh and I'm not really shouting from rooftops on a self hosted Lemmy server, it's more like a quiet chat around a campfire telling a potential newcomer and easy way. It may cost in the future or they may make enough from Businesses that they keep a free tier, but currently it's free and easy.
Ahh the shouting from the rooftops wasn't aimed at you, but the general group of people in similar threads. Lots of people shill tailscale as it's a great service for nothing but there needs to be a level of caution with it too.
I'm quite new to the self hosting game myself, but services like tailscale which have so much insight / reach into our networks are something that in the end, should be self hosted.
If your using SMB locally between VMs maybe try proxmox, https//clan.lol/ is something I'm looking into to replace Proxmox down the line. I share bind-mounts currently between multiple LXC from the host Proxmox OS, configuration is pretty easy, and there are lots of tutorials online for getting started.
I think you guys lots me haha!