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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (22 children)

Go watch a dev who is competent with vim/emacs and you will feel like a 7 year old on a tablet. I didn't give neovim a try until I was thoroughly embarrassed with my ability as a professional text editor (software dev).

Is it the motions you don't like or the editor itself? After 3 days with the motions I could never go back.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Are there any videos of this sort of editing, because honestly every single person I've watched use Vim has just been like "oh wait that's the wrong thing.. hold on." constantly. You're going to say "they aren't competent" but that's kind of the point - approximately nobody is competent in Vim because it isn't worth learning.

Even so, I'd be interested if there are any videos of pros doing real editing (not "look what I can do") on YouTube. Anyone know of any?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Primeagon and Rene Rebe come to mind. Tsoding uses emacs and flys around. I'm still new to neovim and can say the speed at which I can transfer my ideas into the editor is significantly higher.

approximately nobody is competent in Vim because it isn't worth learning

Come on, you really think its a giant conspiracy from elitists lying about their experience? You think thousands of developers are handicapping themselves for bragging rights?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Not op but yes, I actually do. Dev for about 20 years, and the vast majority showing vim/emacs struggle when presenting. Could be presentation jitters ofc but the answer to:

You think thousands of developers are handicapping themselves for bragging rights?

Yes, yes I do. Thousands is not all, but they are definitively in the thousands

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