Three plaintiffs testified about the trauma they experienced carrying nonviable pregnancies.

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[+] 22 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)
  • [+] -32 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    You think it's a pile of cells with little value.

    I believe it's a human life with inherent value.

    Why does that make me stupid? Because I believe something differently than you? Why does that mean I am giving fascists 'coochie'?

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Why don't you believe the woman has inherent value and rights then? Even if I did think a lump of cells had human rights, nobody has the right to force a human to risk their lives for another human outside the womb, so why do you believe the government should force a human to risk their lives for an unborn one in the womb?

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  • [+] -10 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    But he's not saying women's life has no inherent value...

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    It's heavily implied in the context. It's okay for people to be morally opposed to abortion, but the moment it becomes about making the decision for someone else, the conversation is no longer about the fetus, it's about the woman carrying it and her rights as a human.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    All human lives start out as piles of cells... but not all piles of cells can become human lives.

    This is my one concession to contributing to this argument. There are pregnancies that aren't viable. For some fetuses, there is literally no way to make it so that those fetuses can live to become infants. Therefore, these fetuses literally objectively don't have inherent value.

    Everybody who's downvoting you, is downvoting you because you are advocating to kill mothers over fetuses that already cannot be kept alive. You're not saying it outright, but by god, you're implying it, because that is what is going to happen if those policies are implemented.

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