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Can NZ get some revenge for last week? Will Australia show up and get their act together?

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Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 Hawke's Bay 5 5 5 25
2 Wellington 4 4 4 20
3 Tasman 4 4 3 19
4 BoP 5 3 5 17
5 Waikato 5 3 4 16
6 Taranaki 4 3 3 15
7 Southland 4 2 2 10
8 Otago 4 2 2 10
9 Canterbury 5 2 2 10
10 North Harbour 4 1 5 9
11 Northland 5 1 3 7
12 Counties-Manukau 5 1 3 7
13 Auckland 4 0 2 2
14 Manawatū 4 0 2 2

Fixtures: Friday 06/09: BoP v Manawatū

Saturday 07/09: Auckland v North Harbour Wellington v Southland Otago v Canterbury Hawke's Bay v Tasman (Ranfurly Shield)

Sunday 08/09: Taranaki v Waikato Counties-Manukau v Northland

Wednesday 11/09: Otago v Wellington

Notes: The biggest game this round is the Ranfurly Shield match on Saturday night, Tasman have never one it as the combined union of Marlborough/Nelson Bays so they'll be up for it; and of course Hawke's Bay will be desperate to keep their winning record. Whoever wins gets both the log o' wood and top of the table.

Other than that, there's a couple of other usually fierce derbies. The Battle of the Bridge on Satuurday, then Otago v Canterbury. Most of the rest of the matches aren't especially exciting.

My Predictions: BoP 24+ North Harbour 9- Wellington 18+ Otago 3- Hawke's Bay 3- Taranaki 9+ Northland 9- Wellington 6+

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Both games Saturday 31st

South Africa vs New Zealand - 1700 SAST (UTC+2) - Johannesburg

Argentina vs Australia - 1900 ART (UTC-2) - La Plata

Predictions in the thread very welcomed

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NZ NPC - Round 4 (www.provincial.rugby)
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Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 Hawke's Bay 4 4 4 20
2 BoP 4 3 5 17
3 Wellington 3 3 3 15
4 Tasman 3 3 2 14
5 Taranaki 3 2 3 11
6 Canterbury 4 2 2 10
7 Otago 3 2 1 9
8 North Harbour 3 1 3 7
9 Waikato 3 1 2 6
10 Southland 3 1 1 5
11 Northland 3 1 1 5
12 Auckland 3 0 2 2
13 Counties-Manukau 4 0 2 2
14 Manawatū 3 0 1 1

Fixtures:

Friday 30/08:

  • Northland v Southland

Saturday 31/08:

  • North Harbour v Counties-Manukau
  • Taranaki v Otago
  • Waikato v Auckland
  • Tasman v BoP

Sunday 01/09:

  • Canterbury v Wellington
  • Manawatū v Hawke's Bay

Wednesday 04/09:

  • Waikato v Northland

My Predictions:

  • Northland 9+
  • North Habour 18+
  • Taranaki 6+
  • Waikato 9+
  • Tasman 6+
  • Wellington 9-
  • Hawke's Bay 15+
  • Northland 6-

1/3 of Round Robin Notes: With Round 3/9 complete now (the fixtures list I refer to has the playoffs as Rounds 10-12 which is a bit random) I figured i'd entertain myself by doing a bit of a stock-take of where we are at.

The defending champs Taranaki are progressing ok with their 1 loss so far coming away to one of the top 4 teams Wellington, are sitting ok, but the draw is a little unkind to them in that their easier games are mostly at home but they still have to play BoP, Tasman & Hawke's Bay on the road.

The comp progresses through quarter-finals, semis to the final so they'll make the playoffs but will need to work hard to get the home advantage they had last year.

The beaten finalists Hawke's Bay are looking quite good especially this week picking up a win away in Canterbury during the storm week. Time will tell though as its all tough games from now, even this Sunday's match against cellar dwellers Manawatū could be banana peel being the 3rd match in 9 days.

Probably the biggest surprise so far is how average Waikato, and how poor Auckland have been. You know you're having a bad season when Southland are ahead of you on the table.

The current top 5 look likely to make the playoffs, of the rest Canterbury will surely make it in though are battling a lot of injuries. The table feels a bit similar to Super Rugby this year. The top 4-5 are clear but places 6-12 are still probably anyone's to take and really only Manawatū & Counties-Manukau are looking completely out of the running.

Crowd wise - its the usual story. The over-saturated Super Rugby markets that struggled to get people to turn up unless it was a big game struggle to get people to show to the NPC. But the provinces that get one or no Super Rugby matches are having pretty good crowds in attendance from what i've seen so far.

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This is my editorialising, but I struggle to see how its not yet more Crusaders bias selecting Bower over Numia.

I get that the latter is uncapped and coming off an injury but Numia was probably the form prop in Super Rugby this year and is going to be 3rd choice prop, not playing in either game unless there's an injury anyway.

Bower's only come back from even more serious injury this year and while he's had some tests under his belt i'd say there's just as many question marks over his international game with answers as unanswered questions about Numia.

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Mmm, drama in camp before the boks match. TRC R3 to be juicy

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Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 BoP 3 3 3 15
2 Hawke's Bay 2 2 2 10
3 Wellington 2 2 2 10
4 Tasman 2 2 1 9
5 Taranaki 2 1 2 6
6 Northland 2 1 1 5
7 Canterbury 2 1 1 5
8 Waikato 2 1 1 5
9 Southland 2 1 0 4
10 Otago 2 1 0 4
11 North Harbour 2 0 2 2
12 Counties-Manukau 3 0 2 2
13 Auckland 2 0 1 1
14 Manawatū 2 0 0 0

Fixtures:

Friday 23/08:

  • Hawke's Bay v Northland (Ranfurly Shield Challenge)

Saturday 24/08:

  • Counties-Manukau v Tasman
  • Auckland v Canterbury
  • Southland v Taranaki

Sunday 25/08:

  • Otago v BoP
  • Wellington v Manawatū
  • North Harbour v Waikato

Wednesday 28/08:

  • Canterbury v Hawke's Bay

My Predictions:

  • Hawkes-Bay 6+ (I'm on call this week so won't be at McLean Park :( )
  • Tasman 18+
  • Auckland 6-
  • Taranaki 6+
  • BoP 6+
  • Wellington 27+
  • North Harbour 6+
  • Canterbury 10-
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Lions hype begins! The currently longest serving fly-halves in the Lions nations pairing up? Who doesn't want to see that?

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Also, an expansion to 24 teams. 6 pools of 4, top 2 go forward automatically, next 4 highest winners, with a knock out of 16 to look forward to too

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  • Australia v South Africa in Perth
  • New Zealand v Argentina in Auckland
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Table:

Pos. Team P W B PTS
1 BoP 2 2 2 10
2 Tasman 1 1 1 5
3 Taranaki 1 1 1 5
4 Canterbury 1 1 1 5
5 Hawke's Bay 1 1 1 5
6 Wellington 1 1 1 5
7 Southland 1 1 0 4
8 North Harbour 1 0 1 1
9 Counties-Manukau 2 0 1 1
10 Auckland 1 0 0 0
11 Otago 1 0 0 0
12 Northland 1 0 0 0
13 Waikato 1 0 0 0
14 Manawatū 1 0 0 0

Fixtures:

Friday 16/08:

  • Otago v Auckland

Saturday 17/08:

  • Northland v Manawatū
  • Tasman v Canterbury
  • Hawke's Bay v Southland (Ranfurly Shield Challenge)

Sunday 18/08:

  • BoP v North Harbour
  • Wellington v Taranaki
  • Counties-Manukau v Waikato

My Predictions:

  • Auckland 13+
  • Northland 21+
  • Tasman 6-
  • Hawkes-Bay 6+ (Hoping to make it to McLean Park for this one)
  • BoP 13+
  • Taranaki 6-
  • Waikato 13-
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Seeing as I care more about the NPC than any other Rugby I feel like I ought to start a thread for this too, even though i'm the only person here that probably has any interest :)

Round 1 Fixtures:

  • Taranaki v Counties-Manukau
  • Auckland v Wellington
  • Canterbury v Northland
  • Southland v Otago
  • Waikato v Bay of Plenty
  • North Harbour v Hawkes Bay
  • Manawatū v Tasman
  • Bay of Plenty v Counties-Manukau*

*Due to the compressed nature of the competition every team has what's called a storm week where they end up playing 3 times in about 10 days which is why this match is marked as the 2nd game in round 1 for these two teams

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  • Australia v South Africa in Brisbane
  • New Zealand v Argentina in Wellington
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But not Allianz Twickenham. Just another Allianz stadium. I hope they got a big paycheck for that

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This could have major repercussions for the game as we know it. The RFU has already reduced the amount of contact allowed in the grassroots of the game. Will the product we all love survive a legal tsunami if this ends in a court ruling?

I always wonder if you could get players to sign away their rights to sue but I'm pretty certain that would not be legally enforceable, alongside being totally exploitative.

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Forgetting that Scotland were playing yesterday due to the Olympics but 4 from 4 in their Americas tour will beg the question "why not Argentina?" once again. With NZ choosing to play the softer touch England and Wales in November, is everyone running scared from the mighty Scots? Well done to the team anyhow, and fantastic to see dooey with the try record

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Mens medals today! Kicking off 1:30 BST, with the semis at 2:30 & 3:00 boks v the french, and fijians vs ozzies. Ceremony bit of a miss last night imo, but I was drinking. Quarters was amazing Thursday night, hopefully a fantastic spectacle again today

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Bit niche I thought when I saw this. So of course I have to share it with a niche community :)

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Day 2 of the mens competition and what a great showcase yesterday was. Loads of offloads, skip passes, individual skills, and team wonder tries on show and a fantastic crowd. Personally a game every 30 minutes is too bloody slow to watch live, and the highlights were slow, but good for du biere if you were in the stadium I'm sure. Actually last time I was in SdF I couldn't buy a beer... Sarkozy!

Anyway, today we venture into knock out territory, so enjoy folks!

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Mens Sevens in the Stade de France from 2:30pm BST today. I have to confess as to not have watched much sevens since Scotland dumped their national team, but France rested DuPont over the 6n for today.

In the UK, only highlights and limited live on the beeb again this Olympics, but eurosport is pretty cheap for a whole month for those that would like to see 6 days of uniterrupted Sevens, and a whole host of other sporting goods

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EASTERN
New England vs DC
https://youtu.be/x796E28Kx7Q
NOLA vs Chicago
https://youtu.be/N6WXjicQE6E

WESTERN
Houston vs Dallas
https://youtu.be/d4IwXIkUdm4
Seattle vs San Diego
https://youtu.be/xyD_RjVEuCs

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Massive news for Moana Pasifika, probably the biggest signing announcement in the entire history of Super Rugby.

No idea how they can afford him, but I've seen some people suggest they picked up some new finance from somewhere. It'll be interesting to see where he plays, possibly at 7 given Inisi had such a huge season at 8 for them this year.

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Times in BST. Sorry SH. Wales already won by a point, so probably best match already done. Anyone want to predict score lines for the rest? Think I'll watch the Chile on iplayer later, not feeling the need to watch that one live

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My analysis: about bloody time. This should have been a wake up call years ago. The big worry: most these players had extensive super6 time. Will 'A' fixtures and academy matches yield something equivalent?

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